Botanicals basket

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Botanicals basket

Post by Michael » Wed Nov 06, 2019 12:15 pm

Thank you to everyone on this site for all the valuable information.

I have made about 10 wash runs now using the strip wash then second run system as advised.

I am then filtering using the little filter that came with the still. I am also sometimes airing with a stone connected to a compressor.

I have used the botanicals basket on the second run but then had to filter. This polished the gin, but also removed some of the gin taste.

So on to my question........

Can I run my filtered n.s through the air still at 40% abv with the basket and just collect all 4 litres?

All heads and tails have been collected on the second run. As well as 50cc foreshots.

I have settled on Gozdowa voda Yeast from Ebay and 6 bags of sugar to make a 25 litre wash. Nice and easy and ready in 12 days.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Jennysgin » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:25 pm

Hi Michael,

Glad you're having success with your still :+1:

I think if you cut back your spirit a bit it will help the gin run. There are lots of recipes on the forum and in the archives and often they recommend cutting back by quite a lot. Eg 2l neutral, 1l water.

Preferences vary a little for how much you collect but you're using finished neutral so you shouldn't need to bother much in the way of cuts. Taking a very small cut from the start of the run usually helps as there seem to be quite a lot of oils (juniper?) that come over there and they tend to cloud over really easily as soon as it's cut back down to drinking strength.
Other than that you can keep the whole run. A lot of folks seem to run to about 40% but it's totally up to you!

Different botanicals come over at different points in the run so it can actually be quite interesting to collect in small jars and then choose which flavours you like. This helps you become familiar with the different flavours so you can tweak recipes to your tastes :)

Good luck in your experiments.

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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Michael » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:05 pm

Hello jennysgin,

Thank you for a very detailed answer.

I will try it tomorrow and get back with the results.

All the best,

Michael.

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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Jennysgin » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:54 pm

Just hope I've not given you duff info! I'm still enjoying learning too :D

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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Mash » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:45 am

All heads and tails have been collected on the second run. As well as 50cc foreshots.
Spot on. You make gin from finished neutral.
Typically filling the still with 2l neutral and 1l of water. This is to leave room for the sputnik and prevent the AS boiling dry. You will lose a little, but this really is a cracking little gin rig. Producing 2 bottles in about 3 hours.

@Jenny. Thanks you made me think. Never considered using separate jars at this stage. I just collect all and then decant. Might experiment. Have been considering running the ingredients individually and then blending.
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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Michael » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:15 pm

Thanks for the advice and encouragement.

Mixed 2 to 1 and took cuts in glasses. All smelled pretty much the same (blame my cold), and the first cut was totally clear with no visable oils. Weird thing was that the last glass at about 38% abv was cloudy. Chucked that one, mixed all the others, diluted to 40% and it went cloudy. Should have taken jennysgin's advice and left the first cut out. On the other hand, Cotswold gin makes a big deal about their cloudy gin.

Live and learn.........(and next time heed advice!)

Thanks again,

Michael

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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Easydrinker » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:47 am

You could aways re-run,and cut the first part, maybe more last part.
Should leave you with a louche free product.
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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Jennysgin » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:05 am

It is also just aesthetics. Its still perfectly ok to drink :)

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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Michael » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:47 am

You're right about it just being aesthetics.

I'll call it artisan gin..... Or maybe wonky gin. Works for the supermarkets!

Thanks again everyone.

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Re: Botanicals basket

Post by Mash » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:06 pm

I used to make a cloudy beer, which tasted great but offended me - bought a stoneware pint pot - sorted.
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