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Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-03-16T00:24:37+00:00

tasleBHC wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Short answer as to why you would re-distill tails/cardboard is because every distillation (extent depending on type of still obviously) gives you increased alcohol by volume while reducing flavour or funk. For whiskey and rum etc you re-introduce flavour through oak, spices etc. For gin you generally put the herbs in pre or during distillation.

ive got an airstill . got 1 ltr tails and 1=1/2 heads do you run together .. i was thinking to add heads to next strip run.. and use tails in the spirit runs ?? is that wise to do ?

I have saved heads and tails and done a run with both and also added tails to next stripping run to add strength. I don't have a great palate or sense of smell so find both fine.

For vodka/neutral I believe the former is best but for rums, it's important (as I understand it) to note that some of the best rum oils/flavours come through after tails. I'm not smart enough to know when is what, but I believe the info is in here http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 14&t=39556

Statistics: Posted by Curmudgeon — Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:24 am

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-03-14T21:49:44+00:00

yes.

Statistics: Posted by packapoo — Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:49 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-03-14T20:53:42+00:00

Just a quick question from a new boy. In tasleBHC's post of Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:59 am is SG and FG Start and Finish Gravity?

Apologies if seems a bit dim or obvious

Statistics: Posted by Klunk — Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:53 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-03-02T00:34:29+00:00

My opinion, and it is only my opinion, not a fact.
If you are aiming for a neutral spirit with an air still, or T500, save your heads,maybe some tails from the AS, should not be many tails from the T500.
Combine these, when sufficient in quantity and re-run sub 30%.

Expect to keep, as hearts, maybe 1/3rd total collected volume.
Throw the rest away.

Do not combine neutral heads and tails with other strip or spirit runs.
I see that as a shortcut to shite.

Now if going for a Rum or Whisky/Whiskey, it becomes much more complex, and if this is your pursuit, go read somemore.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:34 am

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-03-01T21:59:01+00:00

[quote="Curmudgeon"]Short answer as to why you would re-distill tails/cardboard is because every distillation (extent depending on type of still obviously) gives you increased alcohol by volume while reducing flavour or funk. For whiskey and rum etc you re-introduce flavour through oak, spices etc. For gin you generally put the herbs in pre or during distillation.

ive got an airstill . got 1 ltr tails and 1=1/2 heads do you run together .. i was thinking to add heads to next strip run.. and use tails in the spirit runs ?? is that wise to do ?

Statistics: Posted by tasleBHC — Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:59 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-26T23:52:13+00:00

That took a couple of reads to get your gist.
I think I have to agree with you.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:52 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-26T05:42:08+00:00

Short answer as to why you would re-distill tails/cardboard is because every distillation (extent depending on type of still obviously) gives you increased alcohol by volume while reducing flavour or funk. For whiskey and rum etc you re-introduce flavour through oak, spices etc. For gin you generally put the herbs in pre or during distillation. Anyone here who has been on a budget all inclusive holiday (ie me) will tell you that all the local spirits are flavoured neutral/vodka and we make much better.

Statistics: Posted by Curmudgeon — Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:42 am

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-24T22:21:25+00:00

I'm guessing that you meant blending?

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:21 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-23T23:30:20+00:00

Easydrinker wrote:
That is all looking good, and it is good that you achieved similar results to the standard guide.
After a while, you may choose your own variances, some will be good, some possibly less so.
There are no hard and fast rules, it is basically down to yourself and your equipment, if nothing else it should keep you off the streets!

Robert.

oh its definitely keeping me off the streets and my missus too
(GOOD JOB SHE UNDERSTANDS MY NEW EXCiTING "HOBBY" LOL)

now i need to learn about bleding and diluting my hearts

Statistics: Posted by tasleBHC — Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:30 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-23T22:42:10+00:00

That is all looking good, and it is good that you achieved similar results to the standard guide.
After a while, you may choose your own variances, some will be good, some possibly less so.
There are no hard and fast rules, it is basically down to yourself and your equipment, if nothing else it should keep you off the streets!

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:42 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-23T00:59:11+00:00

robert this is the step by step i mentioned above

Air still results
SG 1.090
FG 0.980
Wash - 14.19%

Stripping run

100ml 68%
200ml 65%
300ml 63%. 1hr 28mins
400ml 60%
500ml 56%
600ml 52%
700ml 46%. 2hrs 12 mins
800ml 41%. 2hrs 24 mins
900ml 33%. 2hrs 36 mins
1000ml ??
1100ml 15%. Overall 46%. 3hrs
1200ml 11%. 3hrs 13 mins
1300ml 7%. 3hrs 27mins
1350ml. Overall 40%. 3hrs 35mins

Spirit run

50ml foreshot discarded 1hr 7 mins

HEADS
250ml heads kept to one side. 1hr 26

HEARTS
100ml. 77%
200ml. 76%
300ml. 75%
400ml. 75%
500ml. 74%
600ml. 73%
700ml. 70%
800ml. 68ml
900ml. 66%
1000ml. 62%. 2hrs 47mins. Overall 70%

TAILS
250ml. 55%
100ml. 46%
100ml. 35%. 3hrs 34 mins

this was posted in the airstill still smart pages and whoever posted this break down along with the diagram has really helped me to understand the process

Statistics: Posted by tasleBHC — Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:59 am

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-23T18:31:18+00:00

Easydrinker wrote:
Ask away.
I will try and help you understand if I can.

Robert.

het there easy drinker thanks.. ive been reading some posts going back to2012.. ive found some interesting articles relating my questions around the run etc..this helped so much and also the step by step spirit run and strip run by one of the guys..

juist one thing if the tails taste like cardboard in this diagram why qould you ad it to the hearts??? or am i misunderstanding something

Statistics: Posted by tasleBHC — Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:56 am

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-23T00:20:57+00:00

Ask away.
I will try and help you understand if I can.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:20 am

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-22T19:06:08+00:00

Easydrinker wrote:
I have already linked to this
download/file.php?id=320
You seem to still learn about Heads,Hearts and Tails.

Robert.

yes easy drinker i have re read the link and downloaded it.. just one question about the end part where the collected liquor and the adding to with hearts with smaller bits doesnt make sense ... well it does make sense but i could be misunderstanding the diagram.. but ill follow the process to the book on the next runs.. when i get stuck ill raise the question in a new post, im sure someone will help with an answer

Statistics: Posted by tasleBHC — Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:06 pm

Re: next wash ferment questions

2017-02-20T23:34:50+00:00

I have already linked to this
download/file.php?id=320
You seem to still learn about Heads,Hearts and Tails.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:34 pm