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Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-25T06:34:50+00:00

beerbeermorebeer wrote:
HETP value?

laymans terms please.. im a home brewer not a rocket scientist lol

and iv spent the last fortnight on that site and got nothing but contradictions.

thats why i asked in here.

Don't go into the forum on the link I posted, but read the site contents, especially "Theory"

Statistics: Posted by vino-tinto — Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:34 am

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T20:04:17+00:00

hetp somethng something theoretical plates bigger value more reflux per height measure so you can have a shorter column and higher ouput %

imho run as per usual and only if the collection rate is significantly slower consider running at a higher temp, running faster/hotter could be counterproductive.

Statistics: Posted by Fil — Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:04 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T18:45:11+00:00

HETP value?

laymans terms please.. im a home brewer not a rocket scientist lol

and iv spent the last fortnight on that site and got nothing but contradictions.

thats why i asked in here.

Statistics: Posted by beerbeermorebeer — Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:45 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T18:26:07+00:00

beerbeermorebeer wrote:
right.. were getting there.
so a copper at the top (under the coil), then ss, then copper at the bottom quite densly packed.
then run at 55-60'c. sound about right?

Yep, Copper - SS - Copper
You can actually push it higher than that as the HETP value of scrubbers is a lot better than raschigs or saddles giving more reflux for the same height, but lower is always better.

If you don't know this site, it needs reading:http://homedistiller.org/intro

Statistics: Posted by vino-tinto — Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:26 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T17:05:05+00:00

right.. were getting there.

so a copper at the top (under the coil), then ss, then copper at the bottom quite densly packed.

then run at 55-60'c.

sound about right?

Statistics: Posted by beerbeermorebeer — Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:05 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T16:30:55+00:00

beerbeermorebeer wrote:
vino-tinto wrote:
Copper needs to be in the vapour path and not the spirit to do any good

so copper after the cooling coil then?

Copper scrubber at the bottom of coil so vapours pass through it, vapour condenses on the coil and drops back into the copper scrubber and then it all happens again & again & again (Refluxing).
Excess vapour passes the coil and goes through to the cooling condenser and comes out as spirit and depending how low a temp you run the coil depends on how much vapour passes.
The T500 is a CM (cooling Management) still

Statistics: Posted by vino-tinto — Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:30 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T15:51:11+00:00

vino-tinto wrote:
Copper needs to be in the vapour path and not the spirit to do any good

so copper after the cooling coil then?

Statistics: Posted by beerbeermorebeer — Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:51 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T14:39:16+00:00

beerbeermorebeer wrote:
well i followed you advice lads and i got 3.8 litres@ 94% and it was very good with little smell.

im thinking of making some kind of parrot but filling it with copper mesh to take more of the nasties out of the final spirit before i cut it, or am i wasting my time?

beerbob

Copper needs to be in the vapour path and not the spirit to do any good

Statistics: Posted by vino-tinto — Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:39 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T14:18:21+00:00

well i followed you advice lads and i got 3.8 litres@ 94% and it was very good with little smell.

im thinking of making some kind of parrot but filling it with copper mesh to take more of the nasties out of the final spirit before i cut it, or am i wasting my time?

beerbob

Statistics: Posted by beerbeermorebeer — Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:18 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-24T01:03:36+00:00

beerbeermorebeer wrote:
thing is, how many scrubbers to use and how dense do i pack it.

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You really want to ram them in there - the old piece of advice is you need to be able to breath though the packed tube, but its difficult to blow through.

So it can be pretty densely packed.

Statistics: Posted by Capt-Cudellez — Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:03 am

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-23T15:08:17+00:00

beerbeermorebeer wrote:
fantastic... iv been trying to a definitive answer to what to pack it with and now im happy..

thing is, how many scrubbers to use and how dense do i pack it.

I went to Lidl where they sell 4 SS ones in a blister pack for about 99p, I bought a tenner's worth, they have a multitude of uses.
The copper ones are a little harder to find, I'm sure we discussed this on former posts a few times, I'm sure a search will find them, "choreboy" are the best ones if you can find them.

Statistics: Posted by vino-tinto — Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:08 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-23T12:30:45+00:00

fantastic... iv been trying to a definitive answer to what to pack it with and now im happy..

thing is, how many scrubbers to use and how dense do i pack it.

Statistics: Posted by beerbeermorebeer — Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:30 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-23T12:24:40+00:00

beerbeermorebeer wrote:
would i be better off with copper scrubbers capt?

NO, use SS scrubbers with 1 copper top & bottom. Push the top copper scrubber up to the bottom of the coil and not into it, pack the rest with SS and a copper at the bottom, this is just the right amount of copper.

Statistics: Posted by vino-tinto — Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:24 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-23T12:16:03+00:00

would i be better off with copper scrubbers capt?

Statistics: Posted by beerbeermorebeer — Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:16 pm

Re: t500 rashig rings

2014-10-23T11:47:26+00:00

I use a short column packed with SS scrubbers for making white rum, and used to use scrubbers in my tall column. They are a really good packing, and clean up nicely with some warm water at the end of the run.

Statistics: Posted by Capt-Cudellez — Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:47 am