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Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-23T22:58:55+00:00

With a whisky, the way I try and copy the malt commercial distillers, F.G. has little to do with it.
It is a fast and furious 3 day'ish ferment,producing a beer at around 4% on a good run.
An F.G. below 1.010 I consider good, but I run the wash according to the lack of ferment, not the hydrometer.
And rack and roll without waiting for a clear wash.
The understanding and use of a feints receiver is important, IMHO.

Robert.

Edited for typo.
Thanks for pointing it out Toper!

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:58 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-22T22:06:41+00:00

What kind of specific gravity number do you reckon it's done at then ?

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:06 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-22T21:25:49+00:00

I don't boil it.
The grain gets sparged with a kettle of boiling water.
Then I wait for it to cool sub 30°C.
It doesn't foam like my neutrals.
And being a wash lower in fermentable sugars ferments out quickly.
Don't expect it to ferment out dry.
Fast and sweet is the way whisky washes work.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:25 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-22T08:03:52+00:00

After mashing then Robert are you boiling the wort before fermenting?
Do you have a foaming issue?

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:03 am

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-21T22:09:59+00:00

I am now using deeper brew bins, or dividing down these days.
Saving me a lot of clean up from the Yeast Monster climbing over the rim.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:09 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-19T06:26:24+00:00

Easydrinker wrote:
Loving that think foam.
Yeasties are becoming sentient.

Robert.

Lol. After some of the things they have done to me they sure have a sense of humour.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:26 am

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-19T06:18:44+00:00

H12rpo wrote:
Is that suggestive of more yeast needed ?
Would that help the foaming issue ?

No & no.
Yeast doesn't work like that..
Normally yeast multiplies to convert all carbohydrates available. That said there are optimal dosages for any given yeast and mash.

Yeasts don't work with proteins unless they have previously been broken down.

It could be done. Test it.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:18 am

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-18T22:31:22+00:00

Starting gravity was 1055
Finish was 1008
Recipe was 2.5kg of malted barley and 1.5 kg of LME
No more activity (after furious start) after end of 48 hrs
Is that suggestive of more yeast needed ?
Would that help the foaming issue ?

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:31 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-18T22:15:43+00:00

Loving that think foam.
Yeasties are becoming sentient.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:15 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-18T18:48:54+00:00

Yup.

You will know when it's done, 'cos you will see the foam. 15 mins should be max.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:48 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-18T18:24:31+00:00

What, before pitching the yeast?

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:24 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-18T18:21:59+00:00

This is a protein foam. Normally brewers boil after mash and the first thing that happens in the first 5-10 mins is a think foam.

I think a quick boil 15 mins after mash would cure it.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:21 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-18T15:32:28+00:00

Your got a Gallon? What % abv?

The Mash process of the grain element might not have converted all starches in the grain, an iodine test would immediately show if this is so. Although, having now boiled it, I think little may be done about that.

A wash made up from grain and LME can be very viscous. A lot of turbo yeasts will quite often only use any granulated sugar but little of the sugars from the grain and LME. Choose a yeast recommended for your ingredients.

Unfermented solids can create this viscosity. You don't actually quote figures but it would be interesting to know your final hydrometer reading of the fermentation.

The maximum level mark in the boiler will, in most instances, be more for filling for the spirit runs. A stripping run requires far more head room. Here, not having a T500, which I think you said you have, others might be able to give you more exact maximum quantity for stripping, if no such information is included in a users manual.

Just as a matter of illustration, I have a 35litre boiler, on a Pot Still system, but never put more than 23 litres in for a stripping run. I know that one can't necessarily relate figures from one system to another but it is an indication of the head room I leave with mine.

Having brought wash/wort through the system, a thorough cleansing, right through the lyne arm and condenser will be needed. If not done, any future strip run will also be tainted.

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:32 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-18T14:07:43+00:00

Malted barley and LME wash just finished this morning .....by my calculations it's at 6.2 abv
I've just ran it ..(fast..strip) and got a gallon.
Trouble is that the foaming issue I had with the last run has happened again? So much thick foam that even after scooping loads out and adding 3drops of still spirits anti foam and not filling to the max line but a good 2 litres below it ........it's still puking and making the distillate cloudy with a bit of an oil slick on the surface .The last strip run I used two table spoons of the crisp n dry veg oil and it foamed....what am I doing wrong? Should I perhaps be leaving it longer before running / stripping?
When I transfer to the boiler the beer drops about a foot into the container I'm racking into and it's here that the foaming starts.
I've even tried degassing by whisking the beer in the boiler hoping that would dissipate the head but it just makes it worse!
Arrrrggggghhhh!

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:07 pm

Re: Easy drinkers malted barley whisky wash

2017-09-14T07:32:42+00:00

The 'Electrim' has a digital thermostatic control. Temperature ranges (max/min) can be set.

Due to the naked element inside the vessel, I constructed a rudimentary false bottom and also had a bag made up to the internal dimensions of the vessel.

I do have to remove the element periodically to thoroughly cleanse it of baked on deposits.

I have it, but do not recommend it

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:32 am