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Re: Why degass?

2017-07-11T23:16:01+00:00

Personally, I think it is when we go "off piste" that we do our own "little bit" to move things forward and onward.
Sometimes what we do maybe wrong.
So, just report the positives, as you see them.
You may get a consensus.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:16 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-11T07:18:44+00:00

Brewhunter wrote:
No offence taken Robert, I'm a busy guy with a young family and a job with silly hours so I still when I can which means often I will turbo clear to fit in runs when the opportunity arises. For me degassing a batch can really help, yes I've run plenty of uncleared wash but prefer not to.

Spot on. I do some stuff, others might think weird/off piste. But I do it cos it fits for me. Good on 'yer

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:18 am

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-10T23:12:36+00:00

If I knew how to shake you by the hand, via the interwebs, I would do so.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:12 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-10T21:41:04+00:00

Easydrinker wrote:
Mate, don't be offended by a little jocularity.

I don't need pictures to convince me.
If you get the same result again, I accept it.

There is no one way, and we each decide what is worthwhile and works for us.

Robert.

No offence taken Robert, I'm a busy guy with a young family and a job with silly hours so I still when I can which means often I will turbo clear to fit in runs when the opportunity arises. For me degassing a batch can really help, yes I've run plenty of uncleared wash but prefer not to.

Statistics: Posted by Brewhunter — Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:41 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-09T23:05:00+00:00

Curmudgeon makes a point succintly.
Capt-Cudellez points are valid, but require more thought and acceptance.
I accept them totally.
I have said above that I do not degass as such.
I often run strips before clear, because the end product is better for it, although clean up can sometimes take longer.
But these days I do not use the Smart still for much, other than a Gin, or one off experiment.
There are no hard and fast rules or instructions.
Somehow you have to feel your way into a way to proceed.
You may have to change direction.
I wish you well.
And I wish you safe.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:05 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-09T21:35:32+00:00

Gaza and Capt-Cuddellez have covered it well.

Most home distillers will have progressed from beer and wine making and know the benefits of letting crud including yeast settle out.

Degassing is a wine thing but is of particular relevance with a smartstill/airstill etc as the lid is not clamped on. Not a million miles different from homebrew beer/cider being safer in bottles that had already had carbonated drinks in them.

Statistics: Posted by Curmudgeon — Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:35 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-07T10:48:55+00:00

not on here much these days, other stuff keeping my busy. But my take on degassing.

Degassing helps clear the wash quicker.
A clearer wash should reduce the risk of burnt yeast imparting a flavour.
A wash that hasnt been degassed produces a visible vapour at the output, which is slightly working the first time you see it as your worried you are not condensing all the alcohol.

but.....my opinion is

If you are doing multiple runs (strip and spirit run) I doubt you could notice the unless there was a lot of yeast in the wash. For brown spirits it would add to the flavour profile so really only an issue if after a neutral spirit.

I have found leaving a wash sitting around for days to clear adds fruity esters to the final product. I prefer to strip a neutral wash as close to it finishing fermenting (clear or not) to minimise these esters, as these are noticeable and harder to remove that a slight yeasty note.

Statistics: Posted by Capt-Cudellez — Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:48 am

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-07T08:31:38+00:00

I remember another topic on this subject and
the importance was on using the Smart Still.
Done as a precaution to aid the wash clear
and secondly to stop a puke during the boil.
Reason because the lid is not screwed on, a
bit like an insurance on puking.

Is your lid screwed on Mash, all that Kale juice

Statistics: Posted by gaza the instructor — Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:31 am

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-07T06:14:29+00:00

Brewhunter wrote:
I have two washes that I put on yesterday so I'll do a comparison photo for the doubters once they are ready.

No doubting here.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:14 am

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-06T21:11:13+00:00

Mate, don't be offended by a little jocularity.

I don't need pictures to convince me.
If you get the same result again, I accept it.

There is no one way, and we each decide what is worthwhile and works for us.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:11 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-06T20:53:48+00:00

I have two washes that I put on yesterday so I'll do a comparison photo for the doubters once they are ready.

Statistics: Posted by Brewhunter — Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:53 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-06T20:48:57+00:00

LOL!
Can anyone else smell cabbage?
Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:48 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-06T19:20:38+00:00

(quote)

I think you are talking complete and utter flocculation.

Except when it's in relation to a kale wash.....

Then flatulation applies.... >:D

Statistics: Posted by packapoo — Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:20 pm

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-06T06:57:03+00:00

Brewhunter wrote:
Interestingly degassed batches compared to non degassed batches clear a lot quicker if you are using finings like turboclear, just a few hours.

I think you are talking complete and utter flocculation.

Never thought about it before or experienced it (cos I don't degas) but yeah I can see that. Fining is getting all manner of stuff to stick together and then sink out of suspension. More gas particles = more floaty = less susceptible to fining.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:57 am

Re: Why degass?

2017-07-05T22:06:04+00:00

I cannot really comment on this last post, I have no experience.
Brewhunter may be talking Bollo.
But he does seem to be affirmative.
Anyone else care to share degassing thoughts?
I am always happy to learn.

There is no one way..

Robert,

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:06 pm