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Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-13T00:46:26+00:00

@ Mr. Four Square: Don't wait for your mate.

If it's any help, I record everything, starting with fermentation. What went in and how much, temps, SG. Temp, SG and rate of change of SG gets recorded every morning. I can then see at a glance if all is going well.

Runs are recorded every hour and include time, temp, volume collected and %ABV of same. Again, at a glance I can see if the run is within the acceptable range of previous runs.

I believe it helps me. I can go to a 3 year old product that is ageing and be able to look up how long it took to ferment, or how much alcohol I pulled off a run, etc. Management by statistics.

Statistics: Posted by RumJohn — Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:46 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-13T00:25:20+00:00

@Brian: I have looked up making bacon. Some time ago. One of the problems is: A guy will arrive at the market with half a pig across the back of his motorbike. It has travelled however far, in the dust, heat, traffic and flies.

Pig finally arrives at the market, gets dumped onto a piece of cardboard and is then chopped up into little bits. The Chinese like bite size bones with a little meat somewhere.

However, I have seen some pork bellies that could work. Thanks for the nudge.

Statistics: Posted by RumJohn — Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:25 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-12T09:41:30+00:00

Point taken RJ. Some day one say I'm going to do a run with my engineer mate. He can do the maths and read the graphs.

First catch your pig ...

http://youtu.be/axc1ZWbOpQE

Statistics: Posted by Mr Four Square — Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:41 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-11T17:07:23+00:00

I am having a hard time squaring "Fairly easy place to live" and "Can't get bacon though".

Statistics: Posted by chill — Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:07 pm

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-11T03:33:11+00:00

RumJohn wrote:
That is indeed the island where I live. Been here for 12 years now. Fairljoked any place to live. Can't get bacon though.

Sounds like another product for your buisiness, Google "Make your own Bacon" its very easy.

Statistics: Posted by YHB — Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:33 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-11T01:31:19+00:00

@ Mr. Four Square:

That is indeed the island where I live. Been here for 12 years now. Fairly easy place to live. Can't get bacon though.

Be careful what you throw back in the pot. There comes a time when your better off chucking the tails rather than contaminate a good wash. If you do the math, which you should, the return, in quality and quantity, might just not balance out.

It is easy to make good booze. Even easier to make bad.

Statistics: Posted by RumJohn — Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:31 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-10T22:22:50+00:00

Just a quicky:IMHO

1.yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.Yes
5.Yes,but don't admit that to any young people!

6.That is what I would do.

HTH
Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:22 pm

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-10T21:46:39+00:00

Thanks for your suggestions. Here's what I got.

It was the tails that done it.
More conservative cuts for the hearts next time.
The good stuff's running out when the head temps rise (early 80's)
Clean the copper.
Disco looks better with hindsight.

Back in the pot it all goes.

Statistics: Posted by Mr Four Square — Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:46 pm

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-10T20:53:35+00:00

If the Hainan I found on Google ... white sandy beaches , blue waters and palm trees is where you are then I'm not suprised.

Statistics: Posted by Mr Four Square — Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:53 pm

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-10T02:45:46+00:00

@ Mr. Four Square: In response to yours of Oct 8. There is a bit of yes, no and I am changing anyway.

One of the reasons "I believe" my rum is so smooth is that I only use the heart of the heart. The longer the run, the more heart there is. But by being generous with my cuts I do have a significant amount of tails. These are collected separately and accumulated until I have sufficient for a run. This is what I make my vodka and gin out of as I take it up to 95%.

I finish up with an odorless and tasteless neutral that I do not have to run through carbon. It is all not as simple as that though. The still gets reconfigured, scrubbers go in and column is 3 times the length for rum. It takes about 2.5 times as long to do a run.

The cachaca is run pretty much the same as rum. Hope that explains it for you. And I wouldn't live in Beijing to save myself.

Statistics: Posted by RumJohn — Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:45 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-09T02:48:08+00:00

Well ED it is the same in that I think my problem was also caused by being a bit greedy.
Imagine that ! Samuel L Jackson wearing a bunnet !

Statistics: Posted by Mr Four Square — Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:48 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-08T22:13:39+00:00

In the groove now!
Back in the days, I once walked out of an establishment,with a young lady on my arm,as this played;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1iDKkZNYU
While not realising that the chap running after us down the street was her very soon to be ex-boyfriend!
This may not solve your stilling problems,but well done on the first thread here that maybe hasn't gone viral,but it has gone disco!
Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:13 pm

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-08T21:23:19+00:00

Well that was a better than average way to start my day. You started it AM ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

Trammps with 2 M's

Statistics: Posted by Mr Four Square — Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:23 pm

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-08T07:04:32+00:00

Mr Four Square wrote:
... what'll i do with all that extra time? Drink a little more I suppose

Friends of Yoda, KC & The Sunshine Band, your answer have!
"Do a little dance, Make a little love, Get down tonight!"

Go there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHEsE9yN2CY and do it

AM

Statistics: Posted by Almanac — Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:04 am

Re: Trying hard and still not getting what I want.

2014-10-08T05:31:38+00:00

Thank you kindly my imaginary friends.

ED the water round here is very good and the potheads made of copper. So probably it is just tails. Thanks for the tip about shutting things off round 82 degrees.. I thought all the good stuff appeared during the late eighties. No wait that was music.

RJ The Cachacha King of ol Beijing ! Tails it is then. I just consulted the great book of Nod (the folder where I've been printing out the entire internet.) and it says you are correct. Last time I looked several people were saying keep going till 88 degrees or more but my sad tale, ED's comments and now yours all point to an early shut down. Just out of interest do you collect and recycle tails for your big batch Cachacha?

AM It's a matter of honour ! I won't give in. Don't go all Yoda on me. Many problems you are having....but no one straight answer is there ...
And probably you are right. Make a nice neutral, load it up with good fruit. Enjoy. No more freezers full of 5 kg bags of last seasons harvest. No more buying boxes of over ripe cut price fruit from the market. No more scratting it up or cleaning it down or straining it out or or or... what'll i do with all that extra time? Drink a little more I suppose

Statistics: Posted by Mr Four Square — Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:31 am