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Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-09T15:36:48+00:00

see the new thread....

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3581

the yeast is already fizzing

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:36 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-09T15:30:19+00:00

Mashy wrote:
We are thinking along the same lines.

We are, and I've done a similar calculation. I've no time to trial a 'sugar wine' wash as if it proceeds like my lentils, I'll be in Italy by the time it completes. I shall start one as soon as I'm back, but I'd be really interested in the results if you do one sooner

Cheers

Hampk

Statistics: Posted by hampk — Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:30 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-09T13:56:32+00:00

hampk wrote:
who knows, maybe leaving the lentils out is the answer

We are thinking along the same lines.

Funnily enough I think that there is no cost saving either way.
Tronozymol is £4.50 for 200g = 8 washes (@25l) = 50p
Lentils are £1 a bag = 2 washes (@25l) = 50p

I am most interested in the flavour. How neutral is this compared to a lentil wash & wheat wash (the latter already pips the former IMO)

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:56 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-09T12:04:22+00:00

Dissident? I like it

It just struck me that as my background is in home-made wine, not distillation (still new at this game!) and you add yeast nutrient to your bucket of elderflower/damson/whathaveyou, why not to a plain sugar solution?

Sadly I'm away on holiday shortly so won't have a chance to lead any research - but look forward to Mashy's findings in due course.

As for the thread, I started it as I felt my lentil washes were slow, and who knows, maybe leaving the lentils out is the answer

Statistics: Posted by hampk — Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:04 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-09T06:46:22+00:00

Agree on all points.
I will put a wash on and start another thread for it.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:46 am

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-08T23:30:15+00:00

Actually, the wash you descibe is the sort of wash that I was running through my first pot still almost 30 years ago.
Information was hard to come by in those days,and involved much time in the local library.
Oh,that the interwebs and sites like this had existed back then!
Sharing is caring.
You raise a very good point,IMHO.
Are we trying to be too clever?
A couple of spoons of Tronozymol or equivalent have to cost less than a bag of lentils.
If you care to try distilling a simple sugar wash,and start a new thread on how it is working for you,awesome.
I think this may be wandering off topic.
Personally,I like to see threads evolve and grow,the thread police like a tidy board,and I think that I hear sirens....

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:30 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-08T06:31:11+00:00

Nah. Not a turbo at all. Not even new.
A simple sugar wine. 12% ish.
Often used to teach the principles of fermentation.
Also good for comparing the effect of different yeasts.
Ideal as it is cheap, colorless and tasteless.

Hmmm. ... do these last three points ring any bells

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Wed Jul 08, 2015 6:31 am

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-07T23:20:49+00:00

Sounds like you two dissidents are trying to formulate a turbo.
I wish you well with it,keep us posted.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:20 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-07T06:35:53+00:00

hampk wrote:
Any thoughts on using a wine-maker's yeast nutrient rather than lentils?

Hampk

I was thinking along the same lines. Drop the lentils completely and replace with tronozymol.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:35 am

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-06T22:55:58+00:00

I have only had the lentil wash hiccup on me,both before the time and after,that I started adding Sultanas and other nutrients.
For sure there is less bulk than the average wine or beer wash.
I am loath and too tight to see if doubling the lentils make the occasional problem go away,equally,a day or two longer ferment does not really bother me.
I plan to start recording Ph data in the brewing book to see if it helps me solve this conundrum.
In time...

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:55 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-06T14:57:09+00:00

No, not just lentils for me.

Statistics: Posted by chill — Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:57 pm

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-06T09:11:00+00:00

Hmm, got me thinking now. I never have problems with slow ferments when making wine. IS it the poor nutritional value of lentils?

Any thoughts on using a wine-maker's yeast nutrient rather than lentils?

Hampk

Statistics: Posted by hampk — Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:11 am

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-06T06:32:01+00:00

Is it only lentil washes?

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:32 am

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-06T02:27:48+00:00

I wonder if it has to do with our relatively nutrition-poor ferments? I never had this problem with beer or wine. I don't recall at the moment how my mostly grain washes fermented out. It could be stress on the yeast affecting pH?

Statistics: Posted by chill — Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:27 am

Re: S.L.O.W. lentils

2015-07-05T23:36:46+00:00

For me,the understanding of Ph and washes has only come from wishing to run fast and simple ones for distilling.
Often I do not need to intervene,sometimes I do.
When I do,it seems to be beneficial.
Why I sometimes need to intervene and other times not,I do not understand,with virtual identical washes.
It keeps me on my toes though.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:36 pm