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Re: Quick question

2016-05-05T07:30:35+00:00

Activated carbon for chemichal filtering (heads removal for instance) requires contact time. The heads molecules actually soak into the pores inthe carbon and are trapped. Like water soaking into kitchen paper.

Its not a physical filtration where the stuff being filtered out sticks to the surface of the filter media, as in a filter bed, so by the time the liquidgets to the bottom of the bed it is clean.

Thats why the method mentioned above works. The heads are dispersed throughout the sample of product and need to pass through it many times to soak up those heads.

The carbon can be re-activated by cleaning out the heads, but it is a smelly (VERRY) process.

Statistics: Posted by Myles — Thu May 05, 2016 7:30 am

Re: Quick question

2016-05-04T06:49:24+00:00

Paver

Do you mean carbon blocks instead of powder?

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Wed May 04, 2016 6:49 am

Re: Quick question

2016-05-03T23:10:54+00:00

You lost me here

"A paver should work best."

You are right on the rest.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Tue May 03, 2016 11:10 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-05-02T08:40:36+00:00

This is almost literally translated from google translate, my apologies. In Dutch I can explain it easily: p

Well, as I learned in chemistry class. it's all about contact surface. If the carbon moves continuously through the liquid, it is several times faster than 1 time per hour in order to rotate, for 24 hours.
A paver should work best.

I'm right, right?

Statistics: Posted by Dynamic — Mon May 02, 2016 8:40 am

Re: Quick question

2016-05-01T22:21:18+00:00

I don't know the answer to that,but your impatience made me smile.
Maybe you will be the one to advise us on that.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sun May 01, 2016 10:21 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-05-01T11:30:59+00:00

Easydrinker wrote:
Simpler/more basic is the way I first carbon filtered.
Almost fill a glass bottle with a spirit <45% .Add a few spoons of carbon.
Keep two such bottles where you will pass them several times a day,at the sides of the chair where you watch TV from could be good.
Simply invert (tip upside down) several times a day.
After a few days, lay diagonally in a freezer for 24 hours before carefully pouring off through a filter paper of choice.
Exercise and alcohol, win,win

Robert

Can't I just tip/invert it every 2 minutes for 2 hours?
I hate waiting, but I know it's important for the quality.

Statistics: Posted by Dynamic — Sun May 01, 2016 11:30 am

Re: Quick question

2016-04-24T23:28:51+00:00

Dynamic wrote:
Is it really as easy as that?
Bottle: spirit + carbon, tip, tip, ... tip, freezer (24h), paper filter?
Cool trick

Yes it is.
To anyone owning a more sophisticated filter it would be hard work, but to a fit young person it is just a bit of fun.
And it is quite fun to watch the carbon particles fall,knowing that they are working.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:28 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-04-24T13:54:50+00:00

Is it really as easy as that?
Bottle: spirit + carbon, tip, tip, ... tip, freezer (24h), paper filter?
Cool trick

Statistics: Posted by Dynamic — Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:54 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-04-23T23:39:10+00:00

Dynamic wrote:
Right.. I forgot the conditioner with my previous order.. again 5€ transport costs
About that filter, is a funnel a good way to start? (I'm starting with basic products)

If you uae a large Stainless Steel funnel,coffee filter/Kitchen Roll and carbon,that is a simple way to start.

Simpler/more basic is the way I first carbon filtered.
Almost fill a glass bottle with a spirit <45% .Add a few spoons of carbon.
Keep two such bottles where you will pass them several times a day,at the sides of the chair where you watch TV from could be good.
Simply invert (tip upside down) several times a day.
After a few days, lay diagonally in a freezer for 24 hours before carefully pouring off through a filter paper of choice.
Exercise and alcohol, win,win

Robert

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:39 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-04-23T18:28:12+00:00

Or a couple drops of cooking oil. It is really only needed with grain based washes that tend to foam up. Sugar washes should not foam. Molasses might.

Statistics: Posted by chill — Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:28 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-04-23T17:24:57+00:00

Some people use butter instead of conditioner Dynamic.

Never have myself but could save you that 5 euros?

Statistics: Posted by Seagull — Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:24 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-04-23T12:43:38+00:00

Right.. I forgot the conditioner with my previous order.. again 5€ transport costs
About that filter, is a funnel a good way to start? (I'm starting with basic products)

Statistics: Posted by Dynamic — Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:43 pm

Re: Quick question

2016-04-23T05:28:31+00:00

Turbo yeast.
Carbon filtering.
Distillers conditioner.

The holy trinity of marmite subjects.

Try the kale recipe next. Really.

PS you don't have to eat the stuff

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:28 am

Re: Quick question

2016-04-23T04:26:38+00:00

Yes glad to see you here.

Remember beer (grain) is typically mashed and fermented to 5 to 8%, because that is what works for the mashing process.

Wine might be fermented up to about 14% possibly a bit higher. You can drink fermented products to about 16% that taste ok when drunk as beer, wine or cider.

Distillation is a bit different because by removing the water it also concentrates other flavour compounds that you didn't notice in the fermented product.

In rum for example a typical fermented wash is 10 or 11%. It could be fermented higher but is deliberately not done so. As was mentioned previously, forcing a fermentation by any of several methods, generates unwanted flavours in the product.

The origional turbo yeasts (not true any more, but I still don't use them) were intended for FUEL alcohol production, so it did not matter what it tasted like.

Statistics: Posted by Myles — Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:26 am

Re: Quick question

2016-04-23T03:15:00+00:00

@Dynamic
It is so good to see some of my compardres coming in with advice here.
Your C.Eng background should see you workout some of the back stuff that you may have missed.
And welcome to a site that through the efforts of its members tries to help all.
Any more questions,then fire away.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:15 am