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Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-08T14:34:17+00:00

Remember you are using a T500. Its a mega
bit of bought kit, it produces high strength
alcohol when used correctly. Nothing unusual
to see 93 or 94% on the spirit run.
2.5 ltrs @93%= 6.2 ltrs @37.5%

Statistics: Posted by gaza the instructor — Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:34 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-08T07:48:21+00:00

That spirit when it came out on the final
run, was 94% and I don't care who you are
don't drink at that strength.
I think its fare to say we all talk of finished
product, something around 40%.

Statistics: Posted by gaza the instructor — Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:48 am

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-08T07:07:07+00:00

H12rpo wrote:
.... but I only got 2.5 ish litres

At what ‰

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:07 am

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-07T23:22:00+00:00

I think it is implicit that that is the case, let down quantities.

Your best bet may be multiple, or larger fermenters, to up your production.

I sometimes have up to 6 x 25 litres running, usually only 2 or 3.
I can only drink so much!

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:22 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-07T22:12:41+00:00

13.72 litres from 3 x25 litre washes is ok.......I'd settle for that but I only got 2.5 ish litres from my last 25 litre kale wash with the t500 that's a load less than you got.
Unless your 13.72 litres was after letting down to 40%???

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:12 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-07T21:34:19+00:00

Been reading this thread and its like a Rugby match.
Turbos on the left and Kale on the right.
They are both good but totally different.
TURBO Fast, efficient powerful,Foul smelling and expensive
KALE Slow Steedy, SMooth, Cheap Quality and neutral.
H12RPO Easy answer to your problem, more washes.

I have just stilled 3x Kale 25l.
Cost me £ 9.70 in total.
£ 9.70 For 13.72 ltrs of good sweet neutral { Vodka}
I rest my case mi lud.

Statistics: Posted by gaza the instructor — Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:34 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-07T06:20:55+00:00

It's finding a balance that works for you.

Turbo's can produce off flavours and are more expensive. But higher ABV.

Naturals are generally cleaner tasting, cheaper but lower ABV.

Your choice.
I bought another fermenter. And use a freezer.

Statistics: Posted by Mash — Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:20 am

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-06T23:38:25+00:00

On another thread? Did I? Dunno ....little bit squiffed after whisky essence neutral from my last run

I see that turbo yeast claims a higher abv percentage but also that many people dislike it .....I'm not sure why though? Is it that you HAVE to use carbon after ferment or is there some other reason? I've read that it can cause bad flavours but with the T500 only producing neutral is that an issue?

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:38 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-06T23:30:53+00:00

H12rpo wrote:
Yeah that's what I thought but if after 2/3 weeks I add say a kilo more sugar......surely that would raise the abv? After all it would continue to ferment with the yeast converting the sugar.

Can I not make a 20% wash (perhaps with something other than a sugar wash) and get 4 to 5 litres of distillate from a 25 litre wash ?

Well you can, just be prepared for quite a bit of faffing around along the way, plus when you think you've reached your goal, more faff to get something palatable from the still.....

Talking wine making here, I've managed to get up to 20% mark with staggered sugar additions - it took quite a bit of manipulation to achieve, so much so that I never bothered to try and replicate the result.
Was it you who raised this topic recently in another thread?

Of course, you can always go the dreaded Turdbo route

By and large, Robert's word above says it all. Sound advice there.

Statistics: Posted by packapoo — Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:30 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-06T23:12:04+00:00

Haha love your reply Robert.

Just musing really that 2 litres or so from a fecking big wash that takes 3 to 4 weeks seems a poor return in investment of time.

Also trying to understand the science bit of 'more sugar must surely equal more alcohol volume'

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:12 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-06T22:38:29+00:00

Mate, what are you trying to make here?
Tractor fuel, or something worth the effort?
You have been around long enough to know that the consensus here is not the highest % wash that you can squeeze from anything is the best.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:38 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-06T22:25:20+00:00

Yeah that's what I thought but if after 2/3 weeks I add say a kilo more sugar......surely that would raise the abv? After all it would continue to ferment with the yeast converting the sugar.

Can I not make a 20% wash (perhaps with something other than a sugar wash) and get 4 to 5 litres of distillate from a 25 litre wash ?

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:25 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-06T22:13:57+00:00

H12rpo wrote:
So is the maximum abv for this kind of wash around 10%? And if that's right, using a T500 can I expect no more than 2.5 litres of distillate from a 25 litre wash ? If that is how it works is there a stronger abv wash that will produce more ?

i don't think it goes much more,i have just checked mine this evening after 12 days just about done 10.89% using corrected hydrometer temps .

Statistics: Posted by ninja_geezer — Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:13 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-08-06T21:11:13+00:00

So is the maximum abv for this kind of wash around 10%? And if that's right, using a T500 can I expect no more than 2.5 litres of distillate from a 25 litre wash ? If that is how it works is there a stronger abv wash that will produce more ?

Statistics: Posted by H12rpo — Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:11 pm

Re: Kale Wash

2017-07-21T23:30:12+00:00

LOL, you bad man!

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:30 pm