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Re: Mashing.

2014-12-14T14:05:45+00:00

From my conversations, though they might possibly crush it for a personal caller to the shop, they don't crush it for online/ mail delivered orders.
Possibly something to do with the start of a loss of phenols once crushed....not sure.

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:05 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-14T13:17:35+00:00

If you get some more I'm sure they'll crush it for you if you ask, I've seen them weighing up exact amounts of grain and hops for people who simply call and say "can I have the ingredients to make 25lt of AG brew from a particular recipe"

Statistics: Posted by Anavrin — Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:17 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-14T11:16:10+00:00

I obtained the heavy peated malt from:

http://www.leylandhomebrew.com/item3015.htm

I rang them to discuss the level of peating and they told me they had both light and heavy in stock
I ordered the heavy peated at the price listed (though it comes as whole grain not crushed).
Whilst no expert on grain, it does carry, for me, a very good and pronounced aroma.

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:16 am

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-14T09:33:27+00:00

Hi Toper

You mention heavy peated malt
I'm intrigued what are you using and where frm please
I've had the devil of a job sourcing the real deal even considering a vist to Islay next year !

Statistics: Posted by Admiral Toad — Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:33 am

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-14T01:04:01+00:00

Wishing you well with the LME's Toper.
My own attempts at a shortcut to AG this year were not a success.
I'm bracing myself for the extra work next years AG's will bring.But it will be worth it.
I hope.

Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:04 am

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-13T14:50:36+00:00

I made a bulk purchase of 25kg Jerry Cans of Pale Light Malt Extract Cedarex Syrup by Muntons @ £64.00 per 25kg. Works out at about £2.55 per kg.

I bought them from:
http://www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk/aca ... syrup.html

I thought the offer too good to miss.

Once I open a 25kg jerry can I use it all in one go. It works out that 25kg is just about 20 litres. That means that I make a total of 4 x 23 litres, using 5 litres of LME + 2kg of heavy peated malt for each 23 ltres.

My final 2 x 23 litres were finished today.

The first two are fermenting away. I will add the yeast to the second two tomorrow.

I do find that by bringing the LME solution to a boil causes an almost immediate dropping out of solids, making for a much cleaner wort when racked off after fermentation.

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:50 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-13T10:49:12+00:00

LME's had its bollocks boiled off to get it so concentrated so i would say hot break is done.

Where are you getting your LME from? 10kg would cost £100 up my way, I'm sure I've seen 1.5kg tins for £14.99.

I've got an old immersion wort chiller I don't use anymore, it was made by Joe at Leyland HomeBrew, like this one

http://www.leylandhomebrew.com/item2086.htm

It needs a bit of a clean but if you want, you can have it for £15 plus postage :-)

Statistics: Posted by Anavrin — Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:49 am

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-13T07:37:37+00:00

The LME was diluted with an equal amount of hot water, used to rinse out the jerry can.

It was then brought to a boil to ensure a 'hot break', thereby helping to coagulate solids. (There are those who argue that as LME has already been through the mashing process, that such boiling isn't necessary. I have always found it beneficial.)

Your suggestion of mashing small smaller quantities of grain in 6-7 litres of water would not have been possible. Using a bag, as I mentioned, the grain would have been suspended above such a small amount of water without any immersion at all.

I do intend to either make, or purchase a wort chiller, thereby gaining from the 'cold break' as well.

This though can wait until I've used up my present stock of LME and moved over to all grain.

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:37 am

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-13T01:00:55+00:00

Hi Toper

I was just wondering how you managed to end up with 46 litres at 45°c, did you add all the LME into the mash tun and heat the hole lot or did you bring it all to the boil for a few mins to sterilise the wort?

I would have only mashed the grain in a small batch with maybe 6-7 litres of water, sparge with maybe 10 litres, this would be just enough rince out the sugar from the grain and to dissolve the LME, then top up with cold water, hopefully end up around 30°c and add the yeast straight away.

Statistics: Posted by Anavrin — Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:00 am

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-12T23:42:34+00:00

I'm sorry, you seem to have mis-read my posting.

I used 4 kg of grain
10 kg of Light LME

This split between 2 x 23 litre worts.
Giving 2 kg of grain and 5 kg of LME per each 23 litres.

The 4kg of grain was done as one mash, then divided.

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:42 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-12T23:28:06+00:00

Hi Toper

If you only used 2kg of grain in 4 litres of water for the mash before halfing it between the two fermenters, How did you end up with 2x23 litres at 45°c?

Statistics: Posted by Anavrin — Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:28 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-12T21:05:19+00:00

I don't have a wort chiller as yet, so the temperature reading is 45°C.

I wanted an O.S.G. which would give a potential 8 -10% abv.

The grain, a flavouring adjunct was two kg.,heavy peated. (It was mashed in a 4 kg batch and divided between two worts.

The Light LME was 2 x5 kg

A finished volume of 2 x 23 litres of wort for fermentation.

At 45° C., the SG reading is 1087

Using a ph strip tester, I get a colour match to 5.2

How efficient the mashing has been I don't know.

Will throw the yeast tomorrow

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:05 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-12T20:25:07+00:00

Hi Toper

If it's left behind in the MT, just chuck it,

How did you get on with your mash? Did you hit your target SG?

Statistics: Posted by Anavrin — Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:25 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-12T20:02:16+00:00

I have just finished mashing some peated grain, using an Electrim Digital Masher/Boiler and a Mashing/Sparge Bag.

On completion, having run off, at the bottom of the Mashing Bin, I can see a layer of light coloured residue which has passed through the mash of the bag.

Is this usable at all or simply something to be disposed of?

Statistics: Posted by Toper — Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:02 pm

Re: Mashing.

2014-12-03T23:42:28+00:00

I won't say that you are wrong Toper,but you are I believe wishing to go the extra,possibly,not needed mile.
Should you try this from the easy and not so easy route,please inform us of the difference.
Robert.

Statistics: Posted by Easydrinker — Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:42 pm