White sugar or brown sugar
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
Has anybody tried half white sugar and half brown sugar?
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bumblebee - Newcomer
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
By all means mix white and brown sugar, that will have less effect on the taste of your product than dropping from 8 to 5 Kg of sugar per 25 litre wash.
Stick with the turbos if you like them, but less sugar will produce a nicer tasting and fermented out wash, and yes, the ABV will drop if you feed the yeast less sugar.
Your choice and taste buds
Robert.
Stick with the turbos if you like them, but less sugar will produce a nicer tasting and fermented out wash, and yes, the ABV will drop if you feed the yeast less sugar.
Your choice and taste buds
Robert.
There is no ONE way.
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
I have done a few runs with white sugar mixed with black treacle. My reasons are that a lot of the "brown" sugar you can buy is precisely that. Just coloured white sugar, and sometimes not even cane sugar but beet sugar.
A 1 gallon plastic jug of treacle is 7.25 kg and is the equivalent of 4.64 kg of sugar. I have tried both 10 kg to the jug of treacle and 20 kg to the jug, but have not made my mind up yet on a recipe.
At some point I will try an all Demerara run as Demerara is proper less refined cane sugar as opposed to coloured white sugar.
A 1 gallon plastic jug of treacle is 7.25 kg and is the equivalent of 4.64 kg of sugar. I have tried both 10 kg to the jug of treacle and 20 kg to the jug, but have not made my mind up yet on a recipe.
At some point I will try an all Demerara run as Demerara is proper less refined cane sugar as opposed to coloured white sugar.
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Myles - Master Distiller

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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
Thanks for the replys. I am soon putting on two 5 gallon washes. I think I will try one with 5kg of white sugar and one with brown sugar.
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bumblebee - Newcomer
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
The obvious question is what are you trying to make?
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
OK Mash you got me. >:(
I just assumed it was rum but it could be intended for something else.
Spill the beans. What product do you want bumblebee?
I just assumed it was rum but it could be intended for something else.
Spill the beans. What product do you want bumblebee?
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Myles - Master Distiller

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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
I thought Turbo's were generally for making neutral base?
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
There are other mixtures sold as Turbos but aimed at Rum, Whiskey, schnapps etc. They are essentially just high-ABV tolerating yeast with nutrients. Some don't even tolerate that high of an ABV, recommending 14% max. I recently put on a couple of test batches with wheat germ and wheat bran to see what the result will be (they are still fermenting and few batches back in my queue). With less sugar and something else for the yeast to eat, you can get a decent result with them. Or at least with some of them. The one I have been experimenting with is targeted toward grain based vodka. It seems (I am a poor record keeper) to produce more heads than using DAP and lentils or kale or whatever. But the hearts are decent and the ferment is odour free.
Chuck
Chuck
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
This is fairly new to me so I was just trying for something different.
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bumblebee - Newcomer
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
My thinking was that fermentations fall into 2 types....
If you want to add flavours you normally make the cleanest possible spirit as a 'neutral' base. Example. Kale wash
The flavours might be essences or natural infusions.
Example. Still spirits, Odins easy gin or sputnik gin.
In everything else, the flavour in the wash (from treacle, molasses, brown sugar, grains) is there to contribute to the finished product. Example all grain whiskey, rum, Cachaca etc.
Working backwards from the finished product is a cracking idea... until you get reading stuff on a forum and change your mind before its done
been there. 
If you want to add flavours you normally make the cleanest possible spirit as a 'neutral' base. Example. Kale wash
The flavours might be essences or natural infusions.
Example. Still spirits, Odins easy gin or sputnik gin.
In everything else, the flavour in the wash (from treacle, molasses, brown sugar, grains) is there to contribute to the finished product. Example all grain whiskey, rum, Cachaca etc.
Working backwards from the finished product is a cracking idea... until you get reading stuff on a forum and change your mind before its done
been there. 
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
+1 on what Mash just said.
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Myles - Master Distiller

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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
Yes, your wash should be decided by the finished product.
There are many ways to get to the end product, and many ways to start.
Robert.
There are many ways to get to the end product, and many ways to start.
Robert.
There is no ONE way.
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
I don't add any flavorings afterwards.
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bumblebee - Newcomer
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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
Hi,and welcome.
It does seem that as a new poster here you have not been properly welcomed,please consider that issue redressed.
Secondly, I would put my pointy hat on at this point and say FCK your turbo yeasts, try doing the same ,some simple bread yeast from tesco's is a whole lot cheaper,and works just as well.
Try it,tell me I am wrong.
Robert.
It does seem that as a new poster here you have not been properly welcomed,please consider that issue redressed.
Secondly, I would put my pointy hat on at this point and say FCK your turbo yeasts, try doing the same ,some simple bread yeast from tesco's is a whole lot cheaper,and works just as well.
Try it,tell me I am wrong.
Robert.
There is no ONE way.
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Easydrinker - Donated to StillSmart

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Re: White sugar or brown sugar
+1 ...I did the same..just like a lot of folks...then I dumped the turbo and just use bread yeast...I can buy it from our local bakery for pennies..but I also keep a tin of dried in.
Give it a go and see for youself BB....trust us you will notice the difference.
Give it a go and see for youself BB....trust us you will notice the difference.

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