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6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:57 pm
by woof811
hello all how many kilos of sugar do you all use for a wash 6 or 7 kilos ?

im going to use alcotec triple distilled yeast as my airstill came with 3 free packs , then im going on to vodka star yeast :)

thanks , john.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:27 pm
by YHB
You probably won't believe it but no more than 5 - after that it will not taste as good.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:58 pm
by chill
5Kg is my limit too.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:06 pm
by GrunthosTheFlatulent
Really?

But if my sums are correct that's only going to give OG 1.075 and about 11.5% abv.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:37 pm
by Almanac
High strength wash stresses the yeast cells which then die in huge numbers creating loads of off smells and tastes. :-\

This is why most of us stick to 5Kg in a 25lt wash (that's total volume) and believe me that will be enough. ;)

As time goes by you'll find that the amount of spirit you will produce from wash finishing out dry at 11%ish will far outstrip your ability to consume it, even those with an Airstill.

AM 8)

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:05 pm
by Capt-Cudellez
I've recently been doing side by side trials of a turbo (alcotec 48) and my own nutrients using pH buffers.

Did both the spirit runs at the weekend there, so will give it a few days before doing the taste test and posting results on here.

But for the tests I'm using 10kg in 50-55L and a single packet of turbo (1.070 sg). The turbo takes 4 days at 26oC.
Using a single packet on a double size wash makes the turbos much better value for money.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:55 pm
by Easydrinker
I await your results with interest CC,being a long time user of this turbo.
I am now sperimenting with other yeasts,but found cutting the amount of alcotech 48 in half for a wash gave both taste and cost benefits.
Curious to know your experience.
Robert.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:30 pm
by Admiral Toad
Got to disagree with some of my mates here but I alway do 7kg with a 26 litre VS

Gives a great 16% plus wash

But I alway distill twice or thrice and carbon (essencia) filter for neutral

I'm my defence my triple distilled filtered sugar wash 'vodka' won 3 to 1 in a blind tasting against a £40 bottle of posh Russian stuff

Happydays ;)

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:50 am
by RumJohn
I use .25K per liter. Works just fine. I used to go no more than .17K /L but over time found I could take it up and still finish with an SG of below 1.000.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:12 am
by Easydrinker
It's this type of vagaries that make this thing so interesting to me.
As the song goes,-if it feels good then Do IT!

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:43 pm
by John51
Need to be careful when comparing our stuff to store bought vodkas. The Iceberg brand gets a lot of hype, Kentucky grain neutral spirit diluted with melted icebergs blah blah. Quite a few of the user reviews cite banging hangovers so not really neutral Kentucky spirit is it?

I use 6Kg of sugar with VS but aim for 2 week ferments.

John, I'm curious to see how you think the Triple compares to Vodka Star.

Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:17 pm
by FullySilenced
Here is a link to wash calculator page on the OLD AD history pages...

http://homedistiller.org/calcs/rad14701 save it if your asking this type of question for future reference