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Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:17 pm
by Icefever
Don't ask me why??? I think I may have banged my noggin.... ;D

I picked up a S-hand copper dome, so I thought what would happen if I fix my torpedo to the dome, I use a short adapter from the screw fitting on the lids to tri-clamp, I made last year so that makes the fitting easier.

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:04 pm
by vino-tinto
Talking Torpedos, my Boka has 970mm of SSP packing and I get 95% as a norm using my Grainfather boiler on full power.
Would a torpedo be of any advantage if fitted below the packing ?

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:18 pm
by Icefever
If your getting 95% can your better that??? the only way to find out would try one.

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:23 pm
by gaza the instructor
Excuse my ignorance guys, but what does
a Torpedos do ??
I look at these Crystal Dragons (beautiful)
and would like to fit one on the Grainfather
when I buy one for the wife's xmas pressie ;D
Sorry that word again.

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:46 pm
by inspector gadget
gaza the instructor wrote:Excuse my ignorance guys, but what does
a Torpedos do ??
I look at these Crystal Dragons (beautiful)
and would like to fit one on the Grainfather
when I buy one for the wife's xmas pressie ;D
Sorry that word again.


But will she really like her torpedo?

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:37 pm
by Toper
That's a question only you can answer Gadget

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:19 pm
by gaza the instructor
probably not, but its me that wants the Grainfather
and it will stop me from moaning ;D

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:21 pm
by gaza the instructor
Have you spoken to her Gadget.
Hope not she is more grumpy than
usual ;D

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:59 pm
by inspector gadget
What goes on in the brewshed... stays in the brewshed... ;D

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:29 pm
by Anavrin
The torpedo is a 4" bubble plate inside two halfs that enable it to fit in line with a 2"column using tri-clamp connections, I bought mine from SD just before their shop opened in Europe, I was using it under a packed column, in its self it's a single distillation stage as the vapour passing up through it mix's with reflux return liquid coming back, and in that process it increases the ABV.

But people ask if it's worth it if your packed column already produces a 95% product?

I would say yes, it's an improvement, I don't have any scientific evidence for it but having the torpedo under the column does seem to help, it kind of buffers the grunt from the boiler and makes the column seem more stable, other users have also noted this.

It also makes your column slightly more efficient, people talk about HETP (Height Equivalent to a Theoretical Plate) when talking about different column packing materials, the smaller the HEPT the more distillation stages for a given height of packing, however this is not linear inside the column the HEPT at the bottom where the ABV is lower is larger than the HEPT at the top, having a REAL PLATE under the column removes the largest theoretical plate, meaning in theory, by adding one physical plate you increase the number of theoretical plates by more then one, maybe another 2-3.

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:39 am
by gaza the instructor
so the SD baby 2" CD it would be worth
fitting a torpedoes to the bottom of the column ?

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:54 am
by Anavrin
Hi Gaza

Not really worth it for the Baby CD, it would help a little I guess by adding another plate but it's much more expensive than a Baby CD glass Section.

I've got a Six plate Baby CD that I'm seriously considering selling, I need some other bits for my Still and with XMAS coming I think I'm going to let it go to pay for the new bits.

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:55 am
by inspector gadget
Anavrin wrote:Hi Gaza

Not really worth it for the Baby CD, it would help a little I guess by adding another plate but it's much more expensive than a Baby CD glass Section.

I've got a Six plate Baby CD that I'm seriously considering selling, I need some other bits for my Still and with XMAS coming I think I'm going to let it go to pay for the new bits.



I'm all ears for that one...

(goes to check the fund manager)

Gadget

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:31 pm
by gaza the instructor
Well thats sold to one of us.
You 1st Mr G .
Dont think you will need to advertise this one
Anavrin.

Re: Frankenstein still.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:39 pm
by inspector gadget
gaza the instructor wrote:Well thats sold to one of us.
You 1st Mr G .
Dont think you will need to advertise this one
Anavrin.


If you want them its fine by me, my shed is drifting further into the fog every day, but should you not take them I will gladly be next in line hopefully if my budget will stretch to it.

Gadget