Scorch marks in boiler

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Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Brewhunter » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:18 pm

After yesterday's spirit run scorch marks have appeared in the bottom of the boiler, I did use ceramics and a few copper coins :-\
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby vino-tinto » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:59 pm

It's quite normal in both the T500 and the Grainfather to find scorch marks. I have the same concealed element in my sparge heater and it leaves a heavy deposit just heating water.
I just sprinkle with vinegar and leave for a few of minutes before cleaning off, whatever you do, don't use a scourer pad, not even scotchbrite.
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Brewhunter » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:26 pm

Thank VT quite worrying when you first see it.
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Brewhunter » Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:36 pm

Will any vinegar do?
I have malt and white wine
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Easydrinker » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:30 pm

What bad thing happens VT?
I always use a Scotch brite type scourer.
It always gets it clean.
Is the arguement that it opens up tiny scratches for future staining?
I always thought that the reason SS didn't stain or rust was due to wear, tear, surface scratches and oxidisation of the outer layer?
Do you know something that I don't?

You probably know loads of stuff that I don't, and vice versa, LOL

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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Mash » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:44 am

OH NO ! Mine is completely crackered then:)
I have been scouring it for years - will I need to through all the alcohol away? :)


C'mon Vino - spill the beans. 8)
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby vino-tinto » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:19 am

What I said was just what I've picked up by working with SS, on the forums and from experience.
It's possible that I am completely do-lally and barking up the wrong tree. ::)

I do know that shinny SS has only a small % of Chromium making up a layer of oxide which can be worn through. I don't know if you've seen an old kettle with the concealed element surface worn out, it looks like brass. I know that satin or brushed finishes get better over time as constant cleaning flattens the surface making it more shinny.

Keeping polished SS shinny is important but using scourers makes it go dull over time and the duller it gets, the more cleaning it needs. My Grainfather is going dull after only say 20 brews, but I did read somewhere that cleaning it doesn't effect it's resistance to corroding only to staining, when I say staining i'm talking short term and not permanent.

Salt and bleach are also a NO, it will corrode SS. A mild acid similar to SS descaler or any type of vinegar is an ideal cleaner.

Easydrinker wrote: You probably know loads of stuff that I don't, and vice versa, LOL

But a lot is rubbish accrued over 65 years of learning ;D
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Mash » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:02 pm

I also have a good collection of utterly pointless gatherings.

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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Easydrinker » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:40 pm

I fill in the gaps of what I learn from wherever, with stuff that the internet pixies plant in my head. :D

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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Curmudgeon » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:21 pm

Scratching or pitting would be a built in boil enhancer. :P
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Chubbs » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:22 pm

Read a thread somewhere else about these marks appearing in the boilers after use. I also read somewhere about modding the boiler with a piece of copper sheet between the boiler and the element to transfer the heat more efficiently and preventing the scorch marks.

Anybody here done this mod. If you have did it solve the problem.
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Brewhunter » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:38 pm

I'm wondering if this happened because I let a wash that wasn't 100% cleared settle in the boiler before I started the run. Now if I've had wash sat in the boiler for any amount of time Ill give it a stir before starting.
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Easydrinker » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:32 am

Yup, yeasty crud settling on the bottom will do it.
You are gonna have to be pretty good with the stirring to move it. ;D

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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Mash » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:50 am

Don't pour the crud in. It won't do your boiler any good AND it is likely to produce off flavours.

Brewers friend is a very good cleaner for stainless
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Re: Scorch marks in boiler

Postby Brewhunter » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:01 pm

Also I have not used any coins since and its been fine so could have been that..
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