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not clearing

Posted:
Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:57 am
by edwatters
OK it's me again with a newbie question :-) three days after adding turbo clear there is no sign of clearing. What do I do next?
Re: not clearing

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:02 am
by KerryW
Ed I am not an expert at this but have found out that followint the directions of the Turbo yeasts is not the best way to go , I was just as eager to get a batch on the go and did it 4 times before seeking better advice,,
so was it a turbo wash with the carbon added?
Re: not clearing

Posted:
Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:15 am
by edwatters
Yes I added carbon because t500 instructions said too. Can I do a sugar wash suitable for the t500 without using the carbon or will my final product quality suffer?
Re: not clearing

Posted:
Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:29 am
by KerryW
Not sure Ed as I am a Air Still newbie see the post I did here
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1319
Re: not clearing

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:30 am
by Frank
edwatters wrote:Yes I added carbon because t500 instructions said too. Can I do a sugar wash suitable for the t500 without using the carbon or will my final product quality suffer?
http://www.stillsmart.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1498#p11616
mate, IMHO the only thing that will 'suffer' here may be your LHBS.
Re: not clearing

Posted:
Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:45 am
by chill
My plan for clearing:
1. Stir/beat out the CO2
2. Wait
3. Add Sparkleoid if you want to wait a bit less.
Re: not clearing

Posted:
Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:00 am
by edwatters
Chill, could it be possible that I didn't get all the gas out? If so do I go ahead and stir it good again?
Re: not clearing

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:38 am
by chill
Yes, it is possible that there is too much gas and that is keeping the yeast suspending. It also may have not stopped fermenting yet. Beating the gas out again won't hurt in either case.
Chuck
Re: not clearing

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:18 am
by Capt-Cudellez
For your next wash try.
Degas thoroughly
Wait 24 Hours
Degas again - then if you want add a clearing agent.
If using something like turbo clear, you have to stir it in very gently else it destroys the structure and doesn't work effectively.
I normally just a combo of a paint stirrer and bubbling lots of air into the wash to displace the CO2 - only because I had a large air pump anyway.
I also use this for oxygenating the wash before pitching.
Re: not clearing

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:44 pm
by edwatters
Thx Capt. I will heed your advise on the next wash. I think I will buy a couple more fermenter buckets and get some more started. I currently have one tpm going and two sugar washes.:-) :-)
Re: not clearing

Posted:
Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:14 pm
by edwatters
I checked the wash this morning at it appears to be beginning to clear. Top two inches are clear or are clearing. Few more days I guess. Next time I will spend more time degassing before I put in the clearing agent. After all the input everyone has done to help me figure this out this is what I be live I did wrong. Practice makes perfect :-)
Re: not clearing

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:33 pm
by chill
[quote="edwatters"I currently have one tpm going and two sugar washes.:-) :-)[/quote]
Attaboy!
Sounds like you are on your way, clearing wise with the first batch.
Chuck
Re: not clearing

Posted:
Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:28 pm
by Magnu420
if possible put the wash somewhere cold on a concrete
floor
Re: not clearing

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Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:35 pm
by edwatters
Its on my garage floor however its in the 70s here so that is the coldest place I have. Thx for the hint