Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Goo"

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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby FullySilenced » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:46 am

Chill please keep us in the LOOP! Not in Suspence!

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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:51 am

It is fermenting away, I'd forgotten to add my usual ph buffer. Once I tossed that in, it was (is) quite active again. There is a potent fruity/sulphur smell coming off of it. I am hoping it is not yet another infected batch.

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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby googe » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:30 am

Sounds like odd smells chill, what's the exact recipe?. Do you get infections much, what washes?.
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby FullySilenced » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:55 pm

My same thought...
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:17 pm

The smell is gone now. The recipe was 25L water, 5 Kg sugar, one bunch Kale rinsed and well blended, some DAP, and my ph buffer (citric acid and baking soda).

And yes, I have been battling infections for some months now. It is not specific to any one wash. I thought it was gone. I don't know what it is, nor if it is all the same one. I have not noticed a smell before. The usual symptoms are that gas is produced after the yeast fermentation has stopped and the alcohol level drops. I've used bleach, hydrogen peroxide, and "the pink stuff" to sanitize things.
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby FullySilenced » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:25 pm

Hopefully the wash will progress as normal then...

What SG did you start at and where is it currently? Temps etc.
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:18 pm

I never take an OG reading. It is at 1.050 now, which seems high given the time it has been fermenting and the big frothy head on it. I stirred the head in well and it returned in an hour or so, so something is happening. It could just be the gas bubbles on the hydrometer throwing the reading off. It tastes nice, at the sweet&sour stage now. I have an aquarium heater in it, should be around 30C, the fermenter feels about that warm.

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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:13 am

Still a big frothy head, SG is down to 1.040 and it has a wafting odour of Eau de Swamp. This really IS Googe's GOO. Not sure what is going on in that fermenter, but I am pretty sure it is not yeast digesting sugar! This one is going down the drain, literally. Got my next bunch of kale already!

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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby googe » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:18 am

Hi chill, I think some people are confused about this wash, I think some think the kale is for flavor, the intention was to use the kale solely as a nutrient. You shouldn't need to add DAP. When you say a punch of kale, what weight?. What yeast did you use?. Fully had good results by the sound of it following my recipe as a guide, I think you may have added to many different things.. good luck with the next.
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:15 pm

I understand that the kale is for nutrient, but it was slowing down so I wanted so see if some DAP would bring it back. I used about half a kilo of kale, a normal bunch in the super market here, a good fist-full. I used bread yeast. But something went wrong here besides the ingredients. It is still sweet, I added some more yeast last night - just because - and there is no activity today. My aquarium heater may have gotten things too hot, but whatever is living in there now is not something I want to distill. :-)
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby Easydrinker » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:33 am

Chill; I don't know if it is that you are more honest than some of us here,or just more unlucky.
I hold my hands up to some stalled washes,but you seem to have a history of hijacked ones.
I don't think I have had one of those.I guess a stalled wash may give a wild yeast time to take over the wash.
Maybe having lost a wash or two to an alien invasion has an effect on the brewer,and they expect the worst?
WTF do I know,just an opinion.
Not knocking you here,merely sympathising with the apparent loss of your wash.

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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:58 am

I have been known to make some kooky wash experiments (raw potatoes and low temp enzymes, don't do that!), mess around with dunder pits, and I also make naturally fermented pickles in the same general area. So it is a fertile environment for uh, undesired results. I do use a variety of sanitizers, but these things can be persistent. And I think that older (e.g. scratched) plastic fermenters can be very hard to re-sterilize. Other infection sources can live in the air for a while.
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:43 pm

Second batch went on about 36 hours ago. It is a nice healthy ferment so far...
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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby chill » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:05 pm

It has been about a week now. No funny colours or smells or floating slime this time. :-) Should be read to rack into my secondary to finish and clear on with weekend.

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Re: Googe's Kale Wash Progress/Progression "Googe's Go

Postby Easydrinker » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:24 am

Well done that man!
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