Wash Recipe

[HangOver]

hi mate

just a note about the bakers yeast you can pretty much use ANY bakers yeast.

Its totally safe.

More pure product using spirit yeast ?

Thats true if you mean highest % spirit once distilled, yes BUT it tastes and smells worse and needs distilling and carbon filtering more than bakers yeast spirit.
Try one batch of each, you will get less spirit from the bakers yeast but it will be MUSCH nicer.

[maverick50]

Blackmoor,
I wouldn\'t want to advise you incorectly, what I suggest you do is google the product\'s, I did just look on ebay and may sellers have these items, wouldn\'t use bath salts as these will definatley contain other items.

Citric Acid you must be able to get from your HBS, this is standard stuff for making wine, Epsom Salts and Gypsom are both for making beer to help acidify wart, the nutrient, just use a good quality wine nutrient.

The bakers yeast is brill, unlike any other yeast it doesn\'t influence flavour, you can use fresh yeast just like the good old boys!!!!
Hope this helps

[Jimmy]

These guys are correct - bakers yeast will not go to such a high percentage as a wine or specialist distillers yeast. However, like they said the higher percentages have their own issues.
It\'s all proportional as well - for example, imagine that 1kg of sugar is £1. A 25 litre bakers yeast wash might include 5 bags of sugar, some bakers yeast, splash of lemon juice and a bit of tomato paste. Total cost maybe £5.50. It\'ll only ferment to say 11%, so assuming a loss of 1 litre in racking you\'d have 24 litres at 11%, or 2.64 litres of 100% alcohol if you discount the water. This works out at £2.08 per litre of ethanol.
Now imagine another wash with a specialist yeast - the yeast may cost £3 and go to 18%, and require six bags of sugar. These kinds of yeast tend to contain their own nutrients, but you may need clearing agents or carbon so we\'ll add another £1, so say £10 in total. The yield will be 24 litres at 18%, or 4.32 litres of 100% alcohol. Cost is therefore £2.31 per litre of ethanol.
I made up the starting figures but they\'re just an example. My point here is that the alcohol at the end is basically the same stuff, so the choice comes down to your own priorities - the first method works out cheaper ingredients wise, but takes longer to ferment, means more distillation runs, etc. The second method is more expensive on paper, but your time may be more valuable to you and you may consider it worth the cost. Personally I\'m in no rush, I don\'t have access to a local home brew shop, and I prefer the taste of the bakers yeast. You may find different, but I hope this helps!

[v4mpy]

Maverick I have followed your recipe, but after 2 weeks the gravity is now only 1030, started at 1080. Do you think adding a brew belt would speed up the process. It currently has a marine type keeping the wash at 24 deg. It is still gurgling but once every 3-4 minutes.

[bluecap]

V4mpy 24c is the optimum temperature so that’s ok however at 1030 you still have a sweet wash and at 1 bubble every 4 minutes its stuck, I would try adding another 2 teaspoons of yeast nutrient to feed the yeast and see if it finishes it off.

[maverick50]

Sorry, not been on here for a while.

I have had the problem of stuck fermintation with this wash, put it down to temp.

Remember that the yeast creates it\'s own heat initialy and if the wash gets to hot it will kill the yeast, I have noticed that if you keep this wash at a cooler temp it will ferment right out. Adding more nutients at this stage wont help or pitching more yeast, the alchol will just kill the yeast before it gets established, just run it through the still and take what you can get, you will be happy with what you get!!!!!

[Bottleofrum]

Started mavericks wash recipe today, bubbling like mad, hope this

one works out as i found in tesco that bakers yeast 125g tin for about 50pence.

cheap as chips!
BOR

[Opus 27]

Tried a wash with allisons bakers yeast. Sorry but not impressed, Slow ferment, stopped at 1.020. 40 litres and 8 kilos of sugar.

Filtered it and ran it anyway got 3.5 litres at 85%.
Opus

[hoppinmad]

Can anyone give me the \'tomato recipe\', I want to try it out and the bakers yeast to see which I prefer, thanks :-)

[Bottleofrum]

Been well over 2 weeks now for the allisons baker yeast, sg is lightly under 1010. I can still see bubbles in the wash but this is taking forever...

Not too shore how to play it from here as i have not used this yeast before, any help? Thanks
BOR

[bluecap]

Has anyone managed to ferment 5 kilo of sugar in a 25 litre wash to complete dryness i.e. 990 or under using bread yeast? I have been looking around other sites and 4 kilo of sugar per 25 litre wash seems the average if anybody wants to try it, I will when I get a spare bucket, lol I have a 5 kilo sugar tomato wash struggling in one and yep I used bread yeast.

[Opus 27]

I tried Alisons bread yeast and could\'nt get below 1020 that was with a ratio of 1Kilo to 5 Litres.

I\'ve gone over to Alcotec 48 with great success all though the wash does have pretty pungent odour. I seem to consistently get an SG of 0985 and the odour hasn\'t effected the finished spirit.
Opus 27

[bluecap]

You do get a cleaner wash using half a bag of Alcotec 48 with 6k of sugar it just takes a couple of days longer to finish.

[hoppinmad]

my twopenneth
i ran my first vodka star wash yesterday and although i was expecting less from it than the ss turbo it infact fermented dry to 0980 and produced VERY clean smelling and tasting, consistently 58% spirit in my air still, whats more i didnt use carbon in the wash just filtered as it came out the still, very happy with that, ended up with 10 bottles @ 40% so i think ill stick with that.

[optic]

thats why i like the vodka star it always comes out of the still clean smelling,also i always get a smoother run when running a wash made with this yeast,without all the sounds of the ceramic boil enhancers dancing around in the still.