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hi goinbroke2,

$1.45 canadian is 92p uk according to www.xe.com very good considering thats your total cost, mines coming in at around £1/lt ish but i havent calculated the electricity used to add it on. p.s. still struggling to find a steel keg to have a go at your still design but ill keep tryin and post when i manage it,
cheers, hoppin

hmmm i tried to upload my excel table .... failed lol
alright, you guys are going to hate me for this info dump but yeah and you may think i over pay for my spirit, but i have my reasons. comes down to simplisity and premium quality, which means its on TRUE par with commerical quality.

Australians are lazy, as am I, if its not easy im not going to do it as i work too much as it is. So in the effort to keep me interested and the slightly more expensive setup means less work and significantly higher quality. otherwise the alternative is a bought $60 bottle, cbf otherwise.
Alright most of my product is using the triple distill yeast production packs so ill talk about that, if you read my other posts about the yeast its got 1/10 of the impurities which i go into depth. but my calculations are below for the 8kg aswell, merely find the difference when it comes to figre out the fully aggravated bottle costs
6 kg production pack produces approx \'3 litres\' @ 80%, 6 litres @ 40% (more like 3.5L but for calc purposes its 3) packs cost me $49.95 for everything i need in one nice small box.
8kg production packs produce significantly more but the impurities are higher, 4.8 litres @ 80%, 9.6 litres @ 40%
bottles $ per bottle

700ml bottle 13.714 $4.010

750ml bottle 12.800 $4.297

1125ml bottle 8.530 $6.448
fully aggravated out at 40% as filtered white spirit, unflavoured

700ml bottle, 8.571 bottles, $5.828

750ml bottle 8.000 bottles, $6.244

1125ml bottle 5.333 bottles, $9.366
Still Spirits Essense cost per bottle

Originals 5 litres per batch 10.500 aggravated triple distilled bottle

700ml bottle $1.470 $7.298

750ml bottle $1.575 $7.819

1125ml bottle $2.363 $11.728

Top Shelf 2.25 litres per batch 8.950

700ml bottle $2.784 $8.612

750ml bottle $2.983 $9.227

1125ml bottle $4.475 $13.841

Classics 2.25 litres per batch 13.950

700ml bottle $4.340 $10.168

750ml bottle $4.650 $10.894

1125ml bottle $6.975 $16.341

Top Shelf Shnapps 8.950 650ml @40

1.125 700ml bottle $6.780 $12.607

750ml bottle $7.264 $13.508

1125ml bottle $10.896 $20.261

Top Shelf Cream Irish 8.950 500ml @40

1.125 700ml bottle $5.565 $11.393

750ml bottle $5.963 $12.206

1125ml bottle $8.944 $18.309

Top Shelf Liqueur Yager 8.950 950ml @40

1.125 700ml bottle $9.244 $15.071

750ml bottle $9.904 $16.148

1125ml bottle $14.856 $24.221
Profile Kit $8.950 per 50 ml bottle $0.179

Glenfiddch© style ml required ess aggravated triple distilled bottle

700ml bottle 20.720 $3.709 $9.536

750ml bottle 22.200 $3.974 $10.218

Laphroaigh© Style

700ml bottle 31.920 $5.714 $11.541

750ml bottle 34.200 $6.122 $12.366

Johnny Walker Red Label© Style

700ml bottle 19.880 $3.559 $9.386

750ml bottle 21.300 $3.813 $10.056

Johnny Walker Black Label© Style

700ml bottle 24.080 $4.310 $10.138

750ml bottle 25.800 $4.618 $10.862

Jamesons© Style

700ml bottle 16.893 $3.024 $8.851

750ml bottle 18.100 $3.240 $9.484

Teachers© Style

700ml bottle 30.800 $5.513 $11.341

750ml bottle 33.000 $5.907 $12.151

Tullamore Dew© Style

700ml bottle 21.373 $3.826 $9.653

750ml bottle 22.900 $4.099 $10.343

Bourbon

700ml bottle 31.360 $5.613 $11.441

750ml bottle 33.600 $6.014 $12.258

Irish Whisky

700ml bottle 24.267 $4.344 $10.171

750ml bottle 26.000 $4.654 $10.898

Highland Whisky

700ml bottle 28.093 $5.029 $10.856

750ml bottle 30.100 $5.388 $11.632

Lowland Whisky

700ml bottle 26.507 $4.745 $10.572

750ml bottle 28.400 $5.084 $11.327

hmmm that didnt post how i wanted to .... ill work on the format a bit, maybe a google doc

alright, dont know how to edit that post .... maybe someone can help with that, but here is my workshet
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... y=CNfj558J
the production packs im talking about are these, which i buy from my LHBS in Melbourne, Mornington
Turbo 6kg Production Pack - EZ Triple Distilled - Still Spirits

http://www.onestopbarshop.com.au/produc ... ts_id=1254
Air Still Production Pack 2.4Kg - Still Spirits

http://www.onestopbarshop.com.au/produc ... ts_id=1253
Turbo 8kg Production Pack - EZ Classic - Still Spirits

http://www.onestopbarshop.com.au/produc ... ts_id=1255
I should add, i didnt add the power, $0.13KWH so on a 2kw element over 5 hours thats $1.30, water is 40¢ a kilolitre .... these costs are insignificant.

main cost is time, and yeah upgraded to the new t500 so it uses less of my time haha

Awesome analysis and summary FLM, thks. First chop this last w/e for the new still for me.
I\'ve done nothing as intensive for the calcs, mathematically spking, but rough estimates gives me between Aus$5-6 per 700ml bottle at 37% (matching Bundy the Bear)using consumable ingredients costing (ie, taking out all of the cost of the once off cap items such as easystill, hydrometers etc)depending on whether I single or double distilled and using Still Spirit essences.
I had wondered about the power costs so your data is v. reassuring.
Sheers.

I got VERY bored one afternoon, but i was supprised that the profile kits were cheaper than i expected, altho i dont think they are infusing like the classic flavourings.
but yeah, the spreadsheet means i can manipulate it and its all formulas so easy to update, should note that i have seperated the costings out distillate and the flavourings.
should add the air still have a 350w element? so ... (0.35w x $0.14KWh x 2hr) = $0.10 per run and zero water flow
If your trying to reproduce the bundy rum, its very difficult as bundy do not have a standardised flavour, from what i understand every batch is different from the next and the rum ages very well so its hard to compare

Thanks for the electrical calcs. That means distilling water (even if it takes 6 hours) is still far cheaper than buying it at the shops!
I agree that the Bundy flavour wasn\'t well replicated (I used Still spirits essence) altho it\'s still very drinkable. I mix with Coke so it doesn\'t have to be perfect.
However, when I picked up on the \'10% rule\' while reading this site\'s threads, I put in a splash of the real stuff and it has now come quite close to the good old original taste.
Sheers.

I have been away from this account for a while, figured I should update these costings. I havent calculated the cost of operation into the figures, but at $0.13kwh off peak or $0.22kwh peak running at 2kw element works out quite small over all. Water consumption is pointless calculating, works out under 10c a run, less than 1c a litre
but still

$10.15 per 700ml bottle for the still spirits classic

$9.50 per 700ml bottle of Glenfiddch© style

$10.15 per 700ml bottle for the Johnny Walker Black Label© Style
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... y=CNfj558J
Figures are based on my local HBS www.onestopbarshop.com.au, please note I focus deeply on quality of spirit, so prices maybe higher than mosts
Cheers,

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