Do you carbon filter?

Filtering spirits after distillation

Do you carbon filter

Yes, always
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44%
No, never
10
29%
Depends....
9
26%
 
Total votes : 34

Do you carbon filter?

Postby Seagull » Tue May 24, 2016 10:36 pm

Since I have learnt new techniques from this forum, I now do a stripping run followed by a spirit run and I take cuts.

I have only made neutral and used essences so far.

Using the knowledge I've gained from here, I think the neutral comes out so clean that I don't need to filter anymore.

I was wondering what others do and what you are using to distill and what you are distilling. So I thought I'd create my first poll!
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Easydrinker » Tue May 24, 2016 11:28 pm

Oh, I do admire someone with cajones!

You have asked that question, and may receive many conflicting responses.

This is a personal taste thing, there is no absolute answer.

For myself, even though I can now distil neutral at a higher ABV, with a much cleaner product, I find that polishing through some carbon improves it.

As I said or at least implied, Taste. Time and effort. My neutral wash is pretty damn neutral anyway.
Pot stilled or through the new reflux type thing.
But if carbon improves on that then I am happy.


This is where some may pile in with the fact their neutral wash is SO good, or their still SO good that they do not need to carbon filter, as I said, personal taste.

And there are always more ways than one to skin a cat/rabbit/skunk(?)/moose/meercat.

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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Icefever » Wed May 25, 2016 12:27 am

I've hit the "depends" button...I did a lot when I started off down the road on my new hobby...but now I trust my taste buds and nose.

ED said it's all down to what you want...last night I took a French oak domino out of a liter of GS rum and it's bang on for me...job done. ;)
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Mash » Wed May 25, 2016 6:58 am

Agreed.

If you have moved on from turbo's it becomes a personal taste option.

I rarely carbon filter now. 8)
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby gaza the instructor » Wed May 25, 2016 8:13 am

You are so right Mash. Those Turbo yeasts
do leave an after taste. If you are using
bakers and cut carefully you dont really
need to carbon.
Nearest I use to a turbo now is Vodka
Star(is it or is it not) for a fast ferment
when in a rush.
Rather have a full bottle in front of me
than a full frontal lobotomy
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby packapoo » Wed May 25, 2016 8:05 pm

Emphatic NO!
Use decent ingredients and you have no need for it......seems simple to me. (Plus I'm even reading where 'conventional' washes thru airstill are coming up with results that seemed unheard of not too long ago :) ).
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Capt-Cudellez » Wed May 25, 2016 8:41 pm

When after base spirit (neutral) which is by far the thing I run the most, I don't filter, haven't for years.
If you run slow enough, the middle cut can be alcoholic water. I run a bit faster than that as it's still very good and is a trade off on your time.
When redistilled into gin running fast, any hotness, if there is any is gone. I'm happy.

All that said, I have found myself building a filter recently. Like most things in this hobby you might change your mind over time - will filtering make my home made any better? I don't know, but I'm going to try it in the near future.
I don't plan on filtering anything that wouldn't have made the cut before, I just want to see what difference it will make.
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby hampk » Wed May 25, 2016 9:46 pm

Yes, a
Ways. I have an AirStilll. Everything gets filtered, through an Essencia. Worth its weight in charcoal, at least.

My process may change as and when I build/acquire a column. Until then, charcoal is king!
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby RumJohn » Thu May 26, 2016 12:47 am

Make a good clean wash, rather than a toxic pool, distill it properly with decent equipment and you will be able to make a decent product that does not require, or demand, filtering.

Your equipment and wash must be of an acceptable quality. Use a toy still and you will get an inferior product.

Good alcohol is easy to make. Bad alcohol is even easier to make.
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Easydrinker » Thu May 26, 2016 1:14 am

I am going to agree with RJ's comment-
"Good alcohol is easy to make. Bad alcohol is even easier to make."
I would add the caveat that good neutral is generally harder than flavoured spirits.

But for me, the prize for most salient point on this topic so far in my opinion goes to Capt.C.

"I don't plan on filtering anything that wouldn't have made the cut before, I just want to see what difference it will make."

For me, carbon filtering neutral is not trying to clean up a shite neutral, but to polish a decent product.
You cannot polish a turd.

I am surprised that my new fancy very high ABV neutral seems to benefit from carbon filtering.I am still playing with that,and may yet go back to pot stilled neutral carbon filtered,as for me it is MUCH faster.
And I am struggling to favour the taste of one over another,once filtered.
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Mash » Thu May 26, 2016 4:35 am

Easydrinker wrote:
.... carbon filtering neutral is not trying to clean up a shite neutral, but to polish a decent product.
You cannot polish a turd.....

Robert.


As this is a voting topic, I will vote for this comment. Spot on.
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Chefbmack » Tue May 31, 2016 4:42 pm

You cannot polish a turd.

I second ( or perhaps 3rd) that emotion.
I only filter the neutral used for Limoncello, a hot commodity with SWMBO. All else is left wonderfully feral.
Especially Panela rum .
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Easydrinker » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:24 am

Keeping a SWMBO happy is very important.
Whatever it takes,it will make life more pleasant/easier. ;)

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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby guest5234 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:42 pm

I will try filtering and not filtering...my taste buds will tell me the path to follow. :)
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Re: Do you carbon filter?

Postby Anavrin » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:05 pm

I just voted yes everything, but only for neutral, I also agree with the point above about using it to polish good spirit rather than clean up bad product.
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