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Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:01 pm
by ninja_geezer
Mash wrote:The b vitamins range is complicated and a lot of articles contradict each other.
The specifics you want are Biotin, Pantothenic acid & Thiamine.

Biotin - Increased cell viability
Pantothenic acid - Reduces sulphide production and volatile acidity. Think PH swing.
Thiamine - Increases cell replication and mass. So increases fermentation speed and is rapidly absorbed at the start of ferment.

Vitamin b complex tablets may have all three. :) :)

I have gone onto using a little Olive oil in 25l and a glug in 350 litres.
When I use olive oil there is never any residue or trace. Something has used it.


cheers mash,may have a go at some in tablet form if they contain all three ,may crush a couple of tabs in a wash .just priced up some wheat locally £4 for 20kg !! now that's cheap..
found these tablets they contain all 3 and a few more,how many crushed into a wash do you think ?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vitamin-Complex-Vegetarian-Supplement-Vegetarians/dp/B017FLAB28/ref=sr_1_7_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1501790671&sr=8-7&keywords=complex+vitamin+b12#Ask

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:41 pm
by gaza the instructor
I bet all these B vits are present in Kale

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:19 pm
by ninja_geezer
gaza the instructor wrote:I bet all these B vits are present in Kale


Maybe you are right gaza,just wanted to give the wheat a try ive done 4 kales now ,wanted to compare.any advice always welcome. ;D

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:39 pm
by Easydrinker
I'm not wanting to knock anyone's neutral wash.
I would wager these vitamins are available in all the currently used washes that users swear by.
Whatever works for you is good by me.
I add a bit of DAP because I can, and because it works for me, Oh and a splash of Epsom salts.
Life is a bagatelle.

Robert.

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:40 am
by gaza the instructor
Maybe you are right gaza,just wanted to give the wheat a try ive done 4 kales now ,wanted to compare.any advice always welcome. ;D[/quote]

What I meant was put your Kale in as usual and you are hoping for a
wheaty flavour to come through.

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:50 am
by Mash
ninja_geezer wrote:
Mash wrote:The b vitamins range is complicated and a lot of articles contradict each other.
The specifics you want are Biotin, Pantothenic acid & Thiamine.

Biotin - Increased cell viability
Pantothenic acid - Reduces sulphide production and volatile acidity. Think PH swing.
Thiamine - Increases cell replication and mass. So increases fermentation speed and is rapidly absorbed at the start of ferment.

Vitamin b complex tablets may have all three. :) :)

I have gone onto using a little Olive oil in 25l and a glug in 350 litres.
When I use olive oil there is never any residue or trace. Something has used it.


cheers mash,may have a go at some in tablet form if they contain all three ,may crush a couple of tabs in a wash .just priced up some wheat locally £4 for 20kg !! now that's cheap..
found these tablets they contain all 3 and a few more,how many crushed into a wash do you think ?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vitamin-Complex-Vegetarian-Supplement-Vegetarians/dp/B017FLAB28/ref=sr_1_7_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1501790671&sr=8-7&keywords=complex+vitamin+b12#Ask




Yeah that's the right price for wheat.
I would crush and use two tablets per wash.

Don't expect a wheaty flavour this is a neutral recipe.

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:10 am
by ninja_geezer
Mash wrote:
ninja_geezer wrote:
Mash wrote:The b vitamins range is complicated and a lot of articles contradict each other.
The specifics you want are Biotin, Pantothenic acid & Thiamine.

Biotin - Increased cell viability
Pantothenic acid - Reduces sulphide production and volatile acidity. Think PH swing.
Thiamine - Increases cell replication and mass. So increases fermentation speed and is rapidly absorbed at the start of ferment.

Vitamin b complex tablets may have all three. :) :)

I have gone onto using a little Olive oil in 25l and a glug in 350 litres.
When I use olive oil there is never any residue or trace. Something has used it.


cheers mash,may have a go at some in tablet form if they contain all three ,may crush a couple of tabs in a wash .just priced up some wheat locally £4 for 20kg !! now that's cheap..
found these tablets they contain all 3 and a few more,how many crushed into a wash do you think ?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vitamin-Complex-Vegetarian-Supplement-Vegetarians/dp/B017FLAB28/ref=sr_1_7_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1501790671&sr=8-7&keywords=complex+vitamin+b12#Ask




Yeah that's the right price for wheat.
I would crush and use two tablets per wash.

Don't expect a wheaty flavour this is a neutral recipe.

Great thanks Mash,I want it for a nice clean Neutral ;D

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:07 pm
by ninja_geezer
Is the basic animal /chicken feed grade of wheat ok for human consumption ?
i know its getting distilled so i presume its ok.....
its easy to get and very cheap compared to health shop versions of organic kind costing 4 times as much.

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:49 pm
by packapoo
Not to steal anything from this thread ninj, have you looked thru topics here and found Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka?

Might be of interest to you?
IMHO can't be used for neutral tho'. Wheat comes across even after a couple of reflux passes.

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:07 pm
by Easydrinker
ninja_geezer wrote:Is the basic animal /chicken feed grade of wheat ok for human consumption ?
i know its getting distilled so i presume its ok.....
its easy to get and very cheap compared to health shop versions of organic kind costing 4 times as much.


It should be as safe as houses, I would certainly expect so.

Robert.

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:59 am
by Mash
ninja_geezer wrote:Is the basic animal /chicken feed grade of wheat ok for human consumption ?


Feed wheat is not unfit for human consumption.

It is a protein grading not a quality grading.

I make bread with it.

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:04 am
by ninja_geezer
packapoo wrote:Not to steal anything from this thread ninj, have you looked thru topics here and found Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka?

Might be of interest to you?
IMHO can't be used for neutral tho'. Wheat comes across even after a couple of reflux passes.


Thanks will have a read.. ;D

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:05 am
by ninja_geezer
Easydrinker wrote:
ninja_geezer wrote:Is the basic animal /chicken feed grade of wheat ok for human consumption ?
i know its getting distilled so i presume its ok.....
its easy to get and very cheap compared to health shop versions of organic kind costing 4 times as much.


It should be as safe as houses, I would certainly expect so.

Robert.


Cheers Robert ;)

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:06 am
by ninja_geezer
Mash wrote:
ninja_geezer wrote:Is the basic animal /chicken feed grade of wheat ok for human consumption ?


Feed wheat is not unfit for human consumption.

It is a protein grading not a quality grading.

I make bread with it.


Cheers Mash ;D

Re: WWW (Wonderful Wheat Wash)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:05 pm
by Easydrinker
I eat the eggs that my chucks lay after eating it.
If that helps any.

Robert.