Quick question

[Robbo12]

Ok i started a fermentation wash on Thursday night it's what i had left a classic turbo 8 starting gravity 1.080 now I've an aquarium heater set at 26%c just checked it this morning and it's reading 0.990 is this too quick or would you leave it a day or so?

[Myles]

When it is done it is done.
Put it somewhere cold to settle and clear then run it.

[Pyro]

Jobs done, there is no screwing around when you use an aquarium heater set at 26%. We are probable about the same distance North and I use the heater all the time.

[Robbo12]

So do i now Even on a kale wash although it still took 15 days to ferment must be the weather up north hear and now i hear the beast from the east is coming .

[Pyro]

I have tried some of the washes over the years, but nowadays I stick with the 6 bags of sugar and a heater, ferments out in 4 to 5 days at the most. Then quick clear for 2 to 3 days and into the still.

I have 3 brew bins in use at all times, one for wash, one clearing, and one feeding the still. In reality I only rotate the bins when the bin feeding the still runs out, it works out reasonably relaxing.

I'm a lazy bugger.

Pat

[H12rpo]

Yep, that’s all well and good for neutral but what do you do for Whisky Pyro ?

[Robbo12]

Why not pat i don't have the room but got one in boiler as i type just waiting for the temp to get up then i will put my water on I've also got one in the shed clearing the one I'm using in the boiler is a vodka star 5kg sugar and the other is a turbo classic 8 both I'm using up before i go back to the kale wash cheers mark.

[H12rpo]

Just asking like.....why don’t you use the spent wash after your run for the next wash ? Ie pour the already heated water out of the boiler after the run straight into the fermenter add the sugar and kale, top up with cold.....wait for temp to drop a bit adjust ph and pitch yeast

[Robbo12]

I didn't even no you could do that i will try it.

[Robbo12]

Well that's the vodka star done just got 3 litres @92% all airing in 200ml jars gonna put back through the still tomorrow .

[Easydrinker]

Just asking like.....why don’t you use the spent wash after your run for the next wash ? Ie pour the already heated water out of the boiler after the run straight into the fermenter add the sugar and kale, top up with cold.....wait for temp to drop a bit adjust ph and pitch yeast

Are you not propounding the basis of an UJ style wash here?
Or a fairly standard Rum?

Not the style that I would use for a neutral.

But hey,, I am all for experimentation.

Robert.

[Mash]

Just asking like.....why don’t you use the spent wash after your run for the next wash ? Ie pour the already heated water out of the boiler after the run straight into the fermenter add the sugar and kale, top up with cold.....wait for temp to drop a bit adjust ph and pitch yeast

I wouldn't do that for a neutral either. There will be flavours in there you don't want.

You use backset at 20-50% generally.

If you are adding it to a fermenter that still has lees/remaining wash, match the temperature or risk killing the yeast.

Starting a fresh, backwash also is very difficult to start a yeast in because it will have no dissolved oxygen.

Like Ed mentioned there are some methods for doing this, UJSSM being the obvious one. That's makes airbag whiskey though not neutral.

[Pyro]

Yep, that’s all well and good for neutral but what do you do for Whisky Pyro ?

Most of the whisky that I make is for the wife who gets through about a bottle a days, so I use SS essence.Any thing that I fancy is made with heart.

[Pyro]

Why not pat i don't have the room but got one in boiler as i type just waiting for the temp to get up then i will put my water on I've also got one in the shed clearing the one I'm using in the boiler is a vodka star 5kg sugar and the other is a turbo classic 8 both I'm using up before i go back to the kale wash cheers mark.

My work area is about 1Mtr square and sits on a plinth to the right of my desk. It holds my 3 brew bins, still and some other bits and bob's. I have 3 DJ's and a 2Lt jar to the left of my desk, they hold heart,stripping's, strait SS recipe for the wife's whisky. The 2Lt jar holds heads and tails from the heart run which I feed back.

It's a tight set-up which has been evolved for ease of operation and speed.

Pat

[H12rpo]

I think some have misunderstood what I said.
What I meant was ........
For a neutral kale wash....after you have run it through the still, use the pot set (remaining wash in the boiler) to start your next wash.
I’m not advocating using the same yeast lees in the fermenter, no, chuck that out and use a fresh clean fermenter, but simply using the back set with its residual heat to start the next wash.
There’s no issue with any remaining flavours because we’re talking about a column stilled neutral not pot stilled with any flavours carried over.