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Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:57 pm
by Easydrinker
Isn't home stilling kind of legal in Oz?

Am I out of date or mistaken?

Robert.







































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Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 10:53 pm
by Goog
No you’re not mistaken, in Aussie you can distill as long as you get a license/permit from the taxation office and pay you tax’s on any alcohol that you produce. It doesn’t matter if it is for private use or if you are selling it. If you produce 40% alcohol you have to pay around $82/£45 per litre to the taxation office but being the kind people they are at the end of the year you can apply for a 60% rebate back from them so that brings it back to having to pay around $49/£27 per litre of 40%.

Cheers

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 10:09 pm
by Easydrinker
Wowee, that is some tax, and then some. :o
I live and learn.

Robert.

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:30 pm
by H12rpo
£45 Gbp per litre???? That has to be wrong?

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:57 pm
by Easydrinker
The man lives there, I will take his word.
And with rebate is down to £27 a litre.
Makes Scotlands £20 a litre look paltry.

Robert.

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:05 am
by Pyro
There was an article in the Scottish Mail yesterday, seems the Scots had been over the border in droves for cheep boos. On the Saturday alone, one shops sales of alcohol was up by £10,000.

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:38 am
by gaza the instructor
So Hadrians wall is more effective than the Scottish
parliament. ;D

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:39 am
by Goog
Here’s a link to the excise rates for alcohol in Australia for those that are interested. Our alcohol started of with a little tax then the government seen how much money they could get so it has kept rising slowly over the last 10 or so years.
https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/Excise- ... r-alcohol/

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 12:11 am
by Easydrinker
That is quite a read, but it does seem that alcohol used for fortifying Aus wine is exempt from all duty.
I am seeing loopholes galore.
Really the blame is upon the Oz CPI, if the country was in recession, taxes would be lower.

Robert.

Edit; Duck, my Oz friends might be coming to get me! :)

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:06 am
by Pyro
We had an after hour’s discussion in the pub last night. This pricing is not a tax, the government don’t make on it in Scotland, and it is big business that makes the killing. The breweries and importers have all upped their prices so that the final point of sale only make a small increase in profit.
The conversation got boozy and good. There was agreement that this will hit the small shopkeepers who are within 20/30 Miles of the border with possible closures. We know people that deliver over the border regularly and come back empty, ears were twitching. And when the beer was finally getting to us, why don’t we build a shed just over the border and start selling booze, we would make a fortune.
Someone will do it.

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:22 am
by Mash
I think the whole supply chain is making more money surely?

Yes the breweries etc, perhaps also the supermarkets.
And let's not forget Nicola charges a percentage!

I think the shed over the border is a cracking idea... Get one with a big cart park >:(

Re: Alcohol Minimum Pricing

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:50 pm
by Easydrinker
Higher pricing = higher VAT, so the government gains.
The cheap cider makers know that they can charge the supermarkets more as the final sale price is up, the supermarkets will also make a profit.
Until the buyers and drinkers realise that you can get a better quality drink for the same price.
This will not stop the booze cruisers slipping south of the border.
I admit to stocking up on more than a couple of hundred litres of cheap cider, I actually like it, and it has increased in cost by 150%, £1.99 to £5. BB date of Feb next year.
One of my favourite beers has only increased by 5p a bottle, across the supermarkets in general.
And spirits?
Who buys those? ;D

Robert.