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I'm having a duh? moment here, and lost.

Robert.

Easydrinker wrote:I'm having a duh? moment here, and lost.

Robert.

I think there are three different things all being talked about here

Kalewash
Half and half kale/VS
Double batch VS

I would have thought using VS in a kale wash would be defeating the object

Brewhunter wrote:
I would have thought using VS in a kale wash would be defeating the object

Yeah. That's my thinking too....and i think gadget has confirmed it.

At risk of confusing things further (not intentional) I have added juice from approximately 100 grammes of 5 minutes simmered kale as nutrient to a cachaca/golden syrup wash consisting 6 tins (900g each approx) of lyles syrup making a 23 litre wash(ish). It's bubbling nicely and so far no fart smell (indoors, constant 21 degrees C)

edit yeast was half a tub of green tin bread stuff

Mash wrote:

Brewhunter wrote:
I would have thought using VS in a kale wash would be defeating the object

Yeah. That's my thinking too....and i think gadget has confirmed it.

I can't think of a great reason to use both.

I have used natural suggestions such as lentil combined with a little dap/wine nutrient as well.

I prefer vs to 48 hour by a long way and consider vs to be as strong a yeast and nutrient combo as I like.

Lentil and a little DAP is what currently floats my neutral boat.
But whatever works for my brother stillers is fine by me.

Robert.

Interested to make a kale wash but hard to find kale, doing some research i found a kale and spinach mix, looking at some data on them i think it would be ok to do a wash.

Any reason not to.

No two ways about it Kale is very good nutrient
for yeast. With Allinsons it makes for great
neutral. Bread yeast can be a little slow.
VS is all but slow,if in a rush.
Now in brew shed loads of space, can put 6 or 8
23ltr washes on at a time
Like many of us space was my final frontier.

I have considered but not tried spinach. I imagine a kale/spinach mix would do very well as both are full of good stuff.

Just waiting for water to coolso i can pitch yeast and already i like this wash, except for the boiling stink, hope it comes out as good.

I think it will be ok

boil sounds a bit much so be wary of the good stuff going up the chimney/into the cooker hood. Put a lid on it while it cools so steam with goodness in re-condenses, then use the liquid

ok i choose my words poorley, the stink when boiling/simmering kale.

Im waiting for my wash to cool down to about 25 to pitch yeast.

Tasturbo wrote:ok i choose my words poorley, the stink when boiling/simmering kale.

Im waiting for my wash to cool down to about 25 to pitch yeast.

I pressure cook mine for 3 mins and let the pressure decline before opening the lid. No steam = no nutrients lost whatsoever = no smell.

CURRENT KALE WASHES

12th January, 2017

4 X 23 litre washes

Each having 5kg sugar dissolved in 5 litres of hot water.
Plus:
500g Kale held in boiled water for five minutes with lid on and then entire contents including kale added to fermenting vessel.

After cold tap water added, each temperature was 23ºC.

Temperature adjusted Hydrometer reading = 1.085 Potential 10% abv

Allinson's Green Label 'Easy Bake' yeast used.

Aquarium heaters set to 30ºC. Bubble wrapped for heat retention.