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American White Oak

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:02 pm
by Toper
Whilst browsing to locate sources of supply for off-cuts of American White Oak it came to my attention that Quercus alba , Quercus prinus & Quercus lyrata are all part of the American White Oak family and, therefore, it seems can each be legally described as American White Oak,

They all, it appears can be used for barrel making.

Does anybody know if there are any significant differences between these varieties when it comes to ageing whisky, and should any be avoided? If any should, how does one differentiate if all are called American White Oak?

Also, whilst on the subject is the darker heartwood or the lighter outer wood preferable, given a choice?

Re: American White Oak

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:02 pm
by Mash
The cooper will decide the mix of wood he uses depending on the order and what the customer is trying to achieve. Sometimes an 'oak' barrel may use other wood for a % point difference.

All barrels are NOT born equal. Some of the french tonnelliers will say there is no such thing as a standard barrel.

I am sure there is a mix/protocol for whiskey barrels, but it is probably guarded secret.

I agree it would be nice to know. You could do some bench trials. Kilner jar same spirit & same volume but different wood in each? Taste it once a week or sooner maybe .. hic !!. Nuking it might give the answers quicker !

Re: American White Oak

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:22 am
by Easydrinker
I think that where we struggle to compare with the big players is in the volume.
They will take,mix,blend many barrels from each vintage for a stable result.
Each barrel different to some degree in construction and make up.

It makes our successes even sweeter ;)

Robert.