6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

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6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby woof811 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:57 pm

hello all how many kilos of sugar do you all use for a wash 6 or 7 kilos ?

im going to use alcotec triple distilled yeast as my airstill came with 3 free packs , then im going on to vodka star yeast :)

thanks , john.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby YHB » Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:27 pm

You probably won't believe it but no more than 5 - after that it will not taste as good.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby chill » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:58 pm

5Kg is my limit too.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby GrunthosTheFlatulent » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:06 pm

Really?

But if my sums are correct that's only going to give OG 1.075 and about 11.5% abv.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby Almanac » Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:37 pm

High strength wash stresses the yeast cells which then die in huge numbers creating loads of off smells and tastes. :-\

This is why most of us stick to 5Kg in a 25lt wash (that's total volume) and believe me that will be enough. ;)

As time goes by you'll find that the amount of spirit you will produce from wash finishing out dry at 11%ish will far outstrip your ability to consume it, even those with an Airstill.

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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby Capt-Cudellez » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:05 pm

I've recently been doing side by side trials of a turbo (alcotec 48) and my own nutrients using pH buffers.

Did both the spirit runs at the weekend there, so will give it a few days before doing the taste test and posting results on here.

But for the tests I'm using 10kg in 50-55L and a single packet of turbo (1.070 sg). The turbo takes 4 days at 26oC.
Using a single packet on a double size wash makes the turbos much better value for money.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby Easydrinker » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:55 pm

I await your results with interest CC,being a long time user of this turbo.
I am now sperimenting with other yeasts,but found cutting the amount of alcotech 48 in half for a wash gave both taste and cost benefits.
Curious to know your experience.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby Admiral Toad » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:30 pm

Got to disagree with some of my mates here but I alway do 7kg with a 26 litre VS

Gives a great 16% plus wash

But I alway distill twice or thrice and carbon (essencia) filter for neutral

I'm my defence my triple distilled filtered sugar wash 'vodka' won 3 to 1 in a blind tasting against a £40 bottle of posh Russian stuff

Happydays ;)
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby RumJohn » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:50 am

I use .25K per liter. Works just fine. I used to go no more than .17K /L but over time found I could take it up and still finish with an SG of below 1.000.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby Easydrinker » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:12 am

It's this type of vagaries that make this thing so interesting to me.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby John51 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:43 pm

Need to be careful when comparing our stuff to store bought vodkas. The Iceberg brand gets a lot of hype, Kentucky grain neutral spirit diluted with melted icebergs blah blah. Quite a few of the user reviews cite banging hangovers so not really neutral Kentucky spirit is it?

I use 6Kg of sugar with VS but aim for 2 week ferments.

John, I'm curious to see how you think the Triple compares to Vodka Star.
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Re: 6 or 7 kilos of sugar ?

Postby FullySilenced » Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:17 pm

Here is a link to wash calculator page on the OLD AD history pages...

http://homedistiller.org/calcs/rad14701 save it if your asking this type of question for future reference
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