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Re: New build

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:47 pm
by Easydrinker
Maker wrote:
It was commented about leaving the 2" ferrule as standard in the top, to be honest I will enjoy machining the barrel to take a 4" ferrule and trying to make a decent job of welding it back, also I dont know the history of the barrel and the ferrule insert is missing and it looks like it has been stored outside so a damn good clean is on the cards. I spent quite a lot of money on my tig so any oppertunity to use it is welcomed...


My advice is to go large.
Something that you can get your hand in for a proper clean.
I have been there and shed tears that I couldn't :(

Robert.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:59 am
by Maker
Managed to get the insert out of the ferrule today so i could peek inside, it's not too bad but has a coating of skunk pussy and black granular stuff, although may add flavour to a brew if you know what you are doing it's not for me, I think a 4" hole and a jet hose sounds magic.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:06 am
by Easydrinker
:D

Robert.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:09 am
by Myles
Maker wrote:Managed to get the insert out of the ferrule today so i could peek inside, it's not too bad but has a coating of skunk pussy and black granular stuff, although may add flavour to a brew if you know what you are doing it's not for me, I think a 4" hole and a jet hose sounds magic.


Sound like you could do with some Five Star PBW Cleaner, followed by StarSan steriliser.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:54 pm
by H12rpo
Lol at ‘skunk pussy’

Re: New build

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:15 pm
by Maker
I have today made another purchase, I know I planned on a 3" column and I still will in the future but when 2m of 2" food grade stainless falls in your lap for 35 quid I may as well make a 2" column first, I'm still going to chop the barrel to accept 4" but I had already ordered a 4-2 reducer.

Is it a case of taller is better or is there an optimum height for a 2" column, I'm sure I read 4 feet was good?

Also, I'm going to make a shotgun condensor, what internal bore is best for the tubes, I'd guess at about 10mm?

Re: New build

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:14 am
by Mash
Maker wrote:Managed to get the insert out of the ferrule today so i could peek inside, it's not too bad but has a coating of skunk pussy and black granular stuff, although may add flavour to a brew if you know what you are doing it's not for me, I think a 4" hole and a jet hose sounds magic.


Truck wash also known as TFR is a superb cleaner for stainless. It gets muck out of stuff that looks clean. Use gloves. No need to soak.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:39 am
by Myles
Maker wrote:Is it a case of taller is better or is there an optimum height for a 2" column, I'm sure I read 4 feet was good?

Also, I'm going to make a shotgun condensor, what internal bore is best for the tubes, I'd guess at about 10mm?


4 foot of 2 inch is a decent option. Taller means you can run a bit faster to get the same purity but running a packed column at high speed is not fun IMO. If you can spare the height 5 foot is about a practical upper limit.

Expect to get roughly 0.75 liters per hour on about 1.5 kW

12 mm copper can be got in straight lengths (2 or 3 mtr) for vapour cores, but the 10 mm will come on a coil. I like 12 mm for shotguns.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:21 am
by Maker
I will look in to truck wash, sounds great!

Thank you Myles, the new column is now a 4 footer as advised, I could have gone higher but I wonder how close the ceiling will be when I add a drain in the bottom of the keg.

Some of the bits for the build turned up today so I have made a start, I got 2 90 degree bends so needed to add an adapter for the temperature probe.

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And here it is glued in.

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Next I cut up the new length of tube to 4 foot and welded ferrules on, I have not touched my welder in quite a while so results were full of character.

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I don't have enough small tube to make the product condenser yet so rather than thumb twiddling I decided to try to make a dephlegmator, gathered up what I could find.

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Marked out and cut a pair of discs from a bit of 2mm plate I had.

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Welded them in place, weld is quite wonky but will work.

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Marked out where to put the holes for the tubes.

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Finally started welding it all together, don't think it looks too bad.

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I'll try to finish it tomorrow and put a pic of it in place and figure out where the hell I'm going to get some tubes for the product condenser, things are moving on though, slowly.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:56 am
by Myles
Nice work. Can you weld copper to stainless?
If so then you could use copper cores in the product condenser.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:42 pm
by Maker
Thats a great idea, as far as I know you can only braze or solder stainless to copper and although not as strong as tig it would work perfectly in this application. I will report back when I get some tube.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:03 pm
by Maker
Some more bits turned up in the post today.

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I dont have a 100mm cutter to make a hole big enough for the 4" ferrule so I had to go old skool on it with some chain drilling, boring but effective.

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And join the holes with a little chisle...

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Once the new ferrule was welded on I used a file to tidy up the inside and finished with emery paper.

I would have shown a picture of the finished job but the uploader says my ip is blocked...

Re: New build

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:03 pm
by Easydrinker
I don't understand your IP blockage, but top marks on what you have so far posted.
Inspiring.
Great to have another hands on practical poster.

Robert.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:28 pm
by Maker
I don't seem to be blocked anymore so I will carry on with my pic heavy post..!
Here is the finished, welded adapter with reducer, looks good but I need to devise a way of presure testing to check the weld.

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A quick pic of the whole thing so far, I am quickly running out of ceiling height so may not bother with the bottom drain in this build.

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Finally for tonight I have been on a womble and found some old copper pipe, after a good clean it looks fine so tommorow I will try to make a product condensor.

Re: New build

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:09 am
by Easydrinker
Loving the "Womble" :)
Re-use,Re-cycle,Re-distill. :D
Robert.