KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Mash » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:46 pm

...then entire contents including kale added to fermenting vessel.


I like this idea. I freeze strip, so getting them out will not be an issue.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Toper » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:45 pm

After fermentation, I syphon off, placing a straining bag over the syphon tube, or pour all out into another vessel through a stainless steel strainer. Either way gives little trouble though the strainer does it in seconds.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Toper » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:28 pm

UPDATE

Compared to previous Kale washes, the results to date (3 days), appear remarkable. The hydrometer readings on each of the four is just below 1.010. Allowing for temperature correction, this is rapid!

Just to reiterate, I didn't boil the Kale. I poured boiling water over it, covered with lid and left for 5 minutes.

Both the Kale and juice were placed in fermenting vessels.

The temperature of 30ºC has been maintained by wrapping in bubble wrap and heating with aquarium heaters set to that temperature. Initially no heating was required as the wash generated its own.

The main differences in the way I have treated these washes compared to previous ones is:

1. Not to boil the kale but to soak in boiling water whilst covered by a lid.
2. To add the kale leaf to the fermenting vessel as well.
3. To maintain a higher temperature throughout.

Things look promising.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Toper » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:31 pm

EUREKA!

This morning, just seven days after throwing the yeast, my four 23 litre Kale washes have fermented out at .97/8.

This is a marvellous improvement on the two to three weeks taken using other methods. Not only faster but a lower final S.G.

All will be used in my MY THIRD AIR STILL GIN.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Mash » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:33 pm

Well done chap. Do you freeze strip?
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Tasturbo » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:16 pm

Toper wrote:CURRENT KALE WASHES

12th January, 2017

23 litre washes

5kg sugar

Temperature adjusted Hydrometer reading = 1.085 Potential 10% abv



using this calc http://homedistiller.org/calcs/rad14701 tells me 12.8% ???
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Toper » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:18 pm

That may well be correct.

I was going by my hydrometer which gives readings in S.G. and % potential alcohol.

In the past my readings have proved reasonably accurate for my purposes.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Tasturbo » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:12 am

Would an extra kg of sugar cause a wash to stall, i managed to put 6kg in my last kale wash and now its stalled at 1.020 .?
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Mash » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:24 am

Yes.
Not every time but the yeast has to work much harder.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby gaza the instructor » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:06 pm

Im sure Mash will agree. Better to do 2x washes
with 5kg, strip and combine for spirit run (s).
Rather have a full bottle in front of me
than a full frontal lobotomy
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Easydrinker » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:03 pm

I certainly don't try to over sugar my washes any more.
It seems a short cut at first, but becomes a slow slippery slope.

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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Tasturbo » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:43 am

Easydrinker wrote:I certainly don't try to over sugar my washes any more.
It seems a short cut at first, but becomes a slow slippery slope.

Robert.



Yeah i didnt do it on purpose.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby ninja_geezer » Sun May 28, 2017 11:20 am

newbie question ,what should the final sg be when the wash has finished ?
how do i know when to run in through the still.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Mash » Sun May 28, 2017 12:03 pm

The hydrometer will read 1.0 or less perhaps .995

Listen to it. It will have stopped fizzing.
Look - it will look flat.
Taste it - like thin wine (cos thats really what it is... a basic Kale wine)

Depending on the temps and the attitude of the yeast this might take anywhere between 1 & 2 weeks.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby gaza the instructor » Sun May 28, 2017 6:45 pm

I think temp could be the key to how long.
Bread yeast is used at higher temps than
brewers, so up temp to 30c.
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