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Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:19 am
by inksanity
First i am a complete novice at this and this is a experimental run
Cocoa Rum 10L wash
Billingtons molasses unrefined cane sugar 1Kg
Red seal Blackstrap molasses 1Kg
essentials brown sugar 1Kg
Chelsea rich chocolate icing sugar 0.375kg
3.375kg to 10L total volume should have an SG 1.129 req 7.91L water should produce a wash of 19.9% alcohol
According to info panel on each item actual sugar content is 2.701 KG
2.701kg to 10L total volume should have an SG 1.103 req 8.33L water should produce a wash of 15.9% alcohol
will be using turbo yeast on first batch
Distilled water
using a Airstill
will post updates as it goes just waiting for current wash to finish

Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:40 am
by packapoo
Interesting mix there inks. Hope you keep us posted on result....
Curious as to what part of the country (generally) you might be in?
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:14 am
by inksanity
Will definitely post updates on this as it goes based in pukekohe
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:23 am
by Icefever
Ink..do you not think that the SGs you quote are too high???
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:41 am
by inksanity
Icefever wrote:Ink..do you not think that the SGs you quote are too high???
they are theoretical using a wash calculator
so when i do the wash will be meticulous with measuring and recording the data to
the best of my ability
will also be interesting to see the actual difference in practice
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:37 am
by Mash
Unless you have really really horrible tap water I would use that. If I really felt it wasn't right. I would use bottled spring water. Never distilled.
Use Baker's yeast. You have some lovely flavours coming through from the sugars - Why ruin it with the off flavours that come with turbos. They are designed for making fast neutrals.
You are trying to get flavour you don't want any off flavours. This wants to be a slightly cooler fermentation 22 ish IMO.
Don't use the freezer to strip it (having said that, I think I'm the only person that does).
Great for neutral, but will not capture all those flavours !!

Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:25 am
by inksanity
first batch going to use turbos on the second batch will use bread yeast want to see and taste the differences
think it will be interesting the results from different strains of yeast
not going to freeze dont have the fridge space or inclination to be honest thank you for the advice and feed back from all
should be able to start thee wash on monday so here is hoping for favor from the Rum Gods
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:07 am
by Easydrinker
Wishing you well with your experiment.
You seem determined.
Robert.
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:28 am
by inksanity
and so it begins
Readings on cocoa rum wash
10L total volume has an SG 1.115
10L total volume has an SG 1.119 using temp adjustment calculator
10L total volume has an SG 1.113 at room temp
Rather high will be interesting to see results after fermentation is complete
total cost $32.91 New Zealand dollars for 10L wash
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:23 am
by Phantom
definitely a novel idea but............
If you read around the home brew world, especially the mead world, there's many who're trying to impart chocolate flavour to many other ingredients.
It seems that it's not an easy thing to do and while some declare good results from various cocoa powder type products, it does seem that cocoa nibs are the way to go.
That said, you will be distilling it and as you've posted it in the air/easy/smart still forum, I presume that is what you're intending to use for the distillation.
The very fact that that distilling removes more flavours from the still charge (irrespective of it's nature), just using the cocoa icing sugar isn't IMO likely to transfer much flavour into the spirit. If you think on the way many whiskies and brandies are distilled, even to get enough flavour across before letting them loose on barrel ageing, they have to include a lot of tails etc in the final cut so that the oak can do it's thing.
I'm thinking that you'd need something infinitely stronger tasting in the chocolate/cocoa department to be able to do that.....
Not trying to put a downer on your post/idea Ink', just give something to think about. Chocolate is nearly as hard to work with as toffee/butterscotch type flavours.......
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:04 am
by Easydrinker
Aye, you may be right there Phantom, I am a fan of Chocolate porters and Stouts currently available from my local supermarkets.
Maybe one day the free time to quaffing ratio will have me try to find a good chocolate beer brew.
Now to get the flavour through a still does sound interesting.....
Is there something that can be used, in place of, or with oak to do this?
There may well be a comercially available syrup,
But is there something that can be steeped?
Robert.
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:47 am
by inksanity
I wonder if using cocoa seeds would work letting that steep in the alcohol
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:50 pm
by Easydrinker
inksanity wrote:I wonder if using cocoa seeds would work letting that steep in the alcohol
Yup, the same thought occured to me, after my last post here. Maybe even cracking them first?
An interesting one.
Robert.
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:55 am
by FullySilenced
Chocolate RUM:
Strip you rum untill you have enough for a 35% boiler charge in a 15.5 gallon keg.
Add 2 cups of cocoa powder to the boiler charge...
run it nice and steady taking it off at about 92 abv...
produces a nice chocolate rum...
This was a recipe used by MINIME
for added complexity add a cup of coffee (any grind works) to the boiler as well
both the cocoa and coffee will carry over into the final product
have fun and happy stillin
FS
Re: Cocoa Rum Wash Experiment

Posted:
Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:09 am
by Mash
Sounds good.
I have scaled this down to airstill proportions to give it a go.
1 litre of water
1 litre of spirit
20ml cocoa powder
10ml coffee
Licorice root
30 mins soak before running.