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Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:22 pm
by Mr Four Square
Sharing is caring ... here's a recipe from the New Zealand Home distiller forum member Teddysad that a few of us there are using. I have just lifted his text here because he did such a great job of explaining it ...enjoy

"Here is my routine for a fast Vodka at very low cost with no carbon filtering or added clearing compounds.I source the bran from the local Stockfood Co however most supermarkets will have it as baking bran. This is not the All-Bran breakfast cereal but works out so much less expensive"

Ingredients ( for a 23l wash)
4kg Sugar
250g wheat bran
1 Multivitamin tablet
Pinch Epsom salts
½ tsp DAP Di Ammonium Phosphate = Yeast nutrient.
(Substitute an extra Multi Vitamin and 10g boiled bakers yeast -M4S)
Citric acid
50g bakers yeast

Method
In a large pot (5 litre or bigger) bring 2 litres of water to the boil (I boil it in the jug to save time)
Add the 250g of bran, bring back to the boil then simmer for 30 minutes stirring from time to time

Dissolve the sugar in warm water and add to the fermenter with cool water to bring quantity up to 20 litres.Add the crushed MV tab, Epsom salts and DAP.

Once the bran has simmered for 30 mins, add it to the fermenter.

I then adjust the pH to around 5 with the citric acid usually takes about ½ a tsp.

Rehydrate the yeast in 100ml water and add to the mix. Making sure the start temp is below 30C

Stir well ( I use a stick blender to thoroughly aerate it.)

Leave plenty of headroom as this takes off like a rocket. I use a 30l fermenter. Do NOT seal for at least 24 hours as a thick foamy cap will form within an hour. I put it under an airlock only after 36 hrs so I can monitor progress.

This produces a fast ferment ( normally dry to .990 within 3 to 4 days). Rack off and allow to stand for a couple of days to clear before distilling.
I find this has a nice slightly wheaty taste and is much nicer than the TPW.Can also be oaked.

I have tried multi generations with a drop in results. It is so low cost that I have found it not worth saving and reusing the trub, - that goes onto the compost.After stripping and then a spirit run I have had several litres of this sitting on uncharred oak dominos at 65% for 6 weeks.Watered down a litre to test and it came through very nicely with a good flavour

Mk II Version
As above but 200g of bran and 100g kibbled rye
This have turned out to be even better - just as fast but with a little more bite/flavour in the end result.

Note: I always strip several ferments through the pot still column and add them together for a slow spirit run through the reflux column

Mr 4S
Because there is fair bit of trub at the bottom of the barrel I upped the total quantity to 25 litres so I get 23 litres of useable wash.
Bit more sugar bit more wheat germ to compensate
If you don't have DAP double the multi vitamins
My OG was 1.06

Here's the original link with pictures and comments ...http://www.nzhomedistiller.org.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=121

O0

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:27 pm
by GrunthosTheFlatulent
I had to think for a while about DAP.

I guess that must be yeast nutrient DiAmmonium Phosphate ???

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:54 pm
by Mr Four Square
Yes that's it GTF I'll edit the post

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:28 pm
by Easydrinker
I'm loving it, always something new to try.
It sounds similar to the lentil wash, one day I will give it a go, contrast and compare.
Life is too short!

Robert.

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:33 am
by Mr Four Square
Hope you do ED. Wheat is the basis for some pretty respectable vodkas.
Cheaper than lentil wash, tastier than TPW.
I have always found it hard to look someone in the eye when I tell them "its made from tomato paste and sugar ". Sounds like I'm serving them prison alcohol !

No wait that would be hand sanitiser and Tang ...

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:48 pm
by Mash
Mr Four Square wrote:Hope you do ED. Wheat is the basis for some pretty respectable vodkas.
Cheaper than lentil wash, tastier than TPW.
I have always found it hard to look someone in the eye when I tell them "its made from tomato paste and sugar ". Sounds like I'm serving them prison alcohol !

No wait that would be hand sanitiser and Tang ...


LOL. Pruno - old habits !

I will have to give it a go to - might boost the sugar a little.

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:59 pm
by packapoo
It's on my hit list too....

BUT

For sheer ease of drinking outcome with only four components, hard to go past kale (and even very little of that needed), sugar, water and yeast.

No time flat!

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:34 pm
by Mash
packapoo wrote:It's on my hit list too....

BUT

For sheer ease of drinking outcome with only four components, hard to go past kale (and even very little of that needed), sugar, water and yeast.

No time flat!


Kale? as in the green leafy thing?

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:10 pm
by chill
Better in a fermentor than on a plate, I say!
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2863

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:27 pm
by Mash
Blimey. I have a glut of spinach at the moment.... Hmm

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:05 am
by packapoo
There are sites (N.B. I'm not trying to teach you to suck eggs here 8) ) that detail the 'goodness' of various fruit and vege. Can't recall specifically which one I used but seem to recall that kale - the green leafy thing - had significantly more going for it then spinach. Spinach would work but would require more input vitamin/nutrient wise.

Or so I thought.

I mean....4 ingredients O0

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:45 am
by Easydrinker
Yes, I think it was Googe that brought Kale to our minds, a little while ago, to be used as a wash nutrient.
Lots of veg do the same job, but this one takes some beating.

Robert.

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:38 am
by Teddy
Mash wrote:
Mr Four Square wrote:H - might boost the sugar a little.


Actually the lower sugar volume is the key to this.
No stress No off flavours and a fast ferment.

A few of my mates did a blind test with this They all bought a commercial bottle including Stoli, Grey Goose and a several others.
Guess which came out on top?

I was blown away

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:14 am
by Mash
Good points there.
I am going to take my often wrought advice and do it 'as is' first.

Re: Teddy's Fast Fermenting Vodka

PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:48 am
by Mr Four Square
Teddy wrote:
Mash wrote:
Mr Four Square wrote:H - might boost the sugar a little.


No I never wrote that!

That's one of the good things about this recipe the relatively low ABV doesn't stress the yeast and makes a clean wash and still.

The airlock on my current batch of this is all quiet by day 4 after rattling away like a mad thing for the first 3 days. Many report the same 4 day ferment.

I'll probably let it rest till the weekend unless I can fit in a midweek strip run. O0