Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

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Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby 0127frey » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:59 pm

Yesterday i put Alcohol into 2 Demijohns,In one i added some "Essencia Wood Blocks",these come with advice of how long to leave them,But in the second Demijohn i Put some Heavily Toasted Wood Chips,The pieces are much smaller,The thing is that i cannot find any advice on how long to leave these much smaller,heavily Smoked Chips in the alcohol,I have read somewhere that leaving wood chip in alcohol for too long can make it too bitter to drink,Well could anyone give me any ideas on how long i should leave them,Many thanks.
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby vino-tinto » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:53 pm

I have read somewhere that leaving wood chip in alcohol for too long can make it too bitter to drink

If the makers of Scotch leave there Whisky for 15 years to mature in oak barrels, it would seem your comment wherever it came from must be wrong.
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Mash » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:26 pm

Not at all. Is all about surface area. Wood chip needs to come out much sooner.

Taste it. Think days not weeks and certainly not months :o

Better to take a bit longer and gentler with medium toast blocks imo.

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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby 0127frey » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:55 pm

Yes thank you Mash,that seems about right,But i should have said that what quantities i'm using,Well it 50gms if Wood Chips,To 2ltrs of Spirit,The Quantities i read were correct but they did'nt say for what Toasting,and what time,Well thank you.
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Easydrinker » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:14 pm

My two pence worth is that too much wood/too long on wood will give it a,.. woody taste, not a bitter one.
This may not be a bad thing.
The spirit will also darken very much more.
This is definitely not a problem.

My advice?
Test it, regularly.

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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby 0127frey » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:02 am

Well thank you "EasyDrinker",.I only asked to give myself a mark not to over step on my first try with not using bought Flavourings and just relying on the Toasted Wood to do everything
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Easydrinker » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:00 pm

'tis all a game my friend, with few hard and fast rules, one mans meat and all that follows being anothers poison.
I can only advise that you read a bit, and follow your nose.
There is no one way to flavour a spirit,,,
It is just that some results taste better than others.
And even that is subjective.

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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby guest5234 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:43 pm

vino-tinto wrote:I have read somewhere that leaving wood chip in alcohol for too long can make it too bitter to drink

If the makers of Scotch leave there Whisky for 15 years to mature in oak barrels, it would seem your comment wherever it came from must be wrong.

15 years :-\ sod that I might be dead...hate someone else drinking my finished product.
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Easydrinker » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:40 am

I guess it comes down to who inherits your cellar?

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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Mash » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:24 am

guest5234 wrote:
vino-tinto wrote:I have read somewhere that leaving wood chip in alcohol for too long can make it too bitter to drink



It has done for me. I redistilled it in the end.
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Easydrinker » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:23 am

Maybe a subjective sense of taste kicks in here?.. ;)

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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Curmudgeon » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:30 am

Easydrinker wrote:I guess it comes down to who inherits your cellar?

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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Easydrinker » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:00 am

That could be regarded as a philosophy.
Or hate mail.
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby 0127frey » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:47 am

Does the Temperature make any difference to how long you have to leave the Wood Chips in the Spirit ?
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Re: Heavily Toasted Oak Chips

Postby Easydrinker » Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:17 pm

YES! it does, check out some previous posts here esp. in the nuking threads.
In an ideal world you would place your jar/demi john on a sunny window cill which gets very warm during the day, and very cool at night.
Above an insulated summer time attic floor is also good.
Heat and cold, heat and cold speed the aging process.

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