KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Easydrinker » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:48 pm

I'm having a duh? moment here, and lost. ???

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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Brewhunter » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:41 pm

Easydrinker wrote:I'm having a duh? moment here, and lost. ???

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I think there are three different things all being talked about here

Kalewash
Half and half kale/VS
Double batch VS

I would have thought using VS in a kale wash would be defeating the object :-\
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Mash » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:41 am

Brewhunter wrote:
I would have thought using VS in a kale wash would be defeating the object :-\


Yeah. That's my thinking too....and i think gadget has confirmed it.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Curmudgeon » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:29 am

At risk of confusing things further (not intentional) I have added juice from approximately 100 grammes of 5 minutes simmered kale as nutrient to a cachaca/golden syrup wash consisting 6 tins (900g each approx) of lyles syrup making a 23 litre wash(ish). It's bubbling nicely and so far no fart smell (indoors, constant 21 degrees C)

edit yeast was half a tub of green tin bread stuff
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Curmudgeon » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:40 am

Mash wrote:
Brewhunter wrote:
I would have thought using VS in a kale wash would be defeating the object :-\


Yeah. That's my thinking too....and i think gadget has confirmed it.


I can't think of a great reason to use both.

I have used natural suggestions such as lentil combined with a little dap/wine nutrient as well.

I prefer vs to 48 hour by a long way and consider vs to be as strong a yeast and nutrient combo as I like.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Easydrinker » Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:25 am

Lentil and a little DAP is what currently floats my neutral boat.
But whatever works for my brother stillers is fine by me. :)

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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Tasturbo » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:05 am

Interested to make a kale wash but hard to find kale, doing some research i found a kale and spinach mix, looking at some data on them i think it would be ok to do a wash.

Any reason not to.


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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby gaza the instructor » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:24 pm

No two ways about it Kale is very good nutrient
for yeast. With Allinsons it makes for great
neutral. Bread yeast can be a little slow.
VS is all but slow,if in a rush.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Curmudgeon » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:11 pm

I have considered but not tried spinach. I imagine a kale/spinach mix would do very well as both are full of good stuff.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Tasturbo » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:08 am

Just waiting for water to coolso i can pitch yeast and already i like this wash, except for the boiling stink, hope it comes out as good.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Mash » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:16 am

I think it will be ok 8)
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Curmudgeon » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:35 am

boil sounds a bit much so be wary of the good stuff going up the chimney/into the cooker hood. Put a lid on it while it cools so steam with goodness in re-condenses, then use the liquid
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Tasturbo » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:47 am

ok i choose my words poorley, the stink when boiling/simmering kale.

Im waiting for my wash to cool down to about 25 to pitch yeast.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby makum101 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:34 pm

Tasturbo wrote:ok i choose my words poorley, the stink when boiling/simmering kale.

Im waiting for my wash to cool down to about 25 to pitch yeast.


I pressure cook mine for 3 mins and let the pressure decline before opening the lid. No steam = no nutrients lost whatsoever = no smell.
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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Postby Toper » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:21 pm

CURRENT KALE WASHES

12th January, 2017

4 X 23 litre washes

Each having 5kg sugar dissolved in 5 litres of hot water.
Plus:
500g Kale held in boiled water for five minutes with lid on and then entire contents including kale added to fermenting vessel.

After cold tap water added, each temperature was 23ºC.

Temperature adjusted Hydrometer reading = 1.085 Potential 10% abv

Allinson's Green Label 'Easy Bake' yeast used.

Aquarium heaters set to 30ºC. Bubble wrapped for heat retention.
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