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Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:46 pm
by Mash
...then entire contents including kale added to fermenting vessel.
I like this idea. I freeze strip, so getting them out will not be an issue.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:45 pm
by Toper
After fermentation, I syphon off, placing a straining bag over the syphon tube, or pour all out into another vessel through a stainless steel strainer. Either way gives little trouble though the strainer does it in seconds.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:28 pm
by Toper
UPDATE
Compared to previous Kale washes, the results to date (3 days), appear remarkable. The hydrometer readings on each of the four is just below 1.010. Allowing for temperature correction, this is rapid!
Just to reiterate, I didn't boil the Kale. I poured boiling water over it, covered with lid and left for 5 minutes.
Both the Kale and juice were placed in fermenting vessels.
The temperature of 30ÂșC has been maintained by wrapping in bubble wrap and heating with aquarium heaters set to that temperature. Initially no heating was required as the wash generated its own.
The main differences in the way I have treated these washes compared to previous ones is:
1. Not to boil the kale but to soak in boiling water whilst covered by a lid.
2. To add the kale leaf to the fermenting vessel as well.
3. To maintain a higher temperature throughout.
Things look promising.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:31 pm
by Toper
EUREKA!
This morning, just seven days after throwing the yeast, my four 23 litre Kale washes have fermented out at .97/8.
This is a marvellous improvement on the two to three weeks taken using other methods. Not only faster but a lower final S.G.
All will be used in my MY THIRD AIR STILL GIN.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:33 pm
by Mash
Well done chap. Do you freeze strip?
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:16 pm
by Tasturbo
Toper wrote:CURRENT KALE WASHES
12th January, 2017
23 litre washes
5kg sugar
Temperature adjusted Hydrometer reading = 1.085 Potential 10% abv
using this calc
http://homedistiller.org/calcs/rad14701 tells me 12.8%

Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:18 pm
by Toper
That may well be correct.
I was going by my hydrometer which gives readings in S.G. and % potential alcohol.
In the past my readings have proved reasonably accurate for my purposes.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:12 am
by Tasturbo
Would an extra kg of sugar cause a wash to stall, i managed to put 6kg in my last kale wash and now its stalled at 1.020 .?
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:24 am
by Mash
Yes.
Not every time but the yeast has to work much harder.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:06 pm
by gaza the instructor
Im sure Mash will agree. Better to do 2x washes
with 5kg, strip and combine for spirit run (s).
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:03 pm
by Easydrinker
I certainly don't try to over sugar my washes any more.
It seems a short cut at first, but becomes a slow slippery slope.
Robert.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:43 am
by Tasturbo
Easydrinker wrote:I certainly don't try to over sugar my washes any more.
It seems a short cut at first, but becomes a slow slippery slope.
Robert.
Yeah i didnt do it on purpose.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Sun May 28, 2017 11:20 am
by ninja_geezer
newbie question ,what should the final sg be when the wash has finished ?
how do i know when to run in through the still.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Sun May 28, 2017 12:03 pm
by Mash
The hydrometer will read 1.0 or less perhaps .995
Listen to it. It will have stopped fizzing.
Look - it will look flat.
Taste it - like thin wine (cos thats really what it is... a basic Kale wine)
Depending on the temps and the attitude of the yeast this might take anywhere between 1 & 2 weeks.
Re: KALE WASH (Feb 2016)

Posted:
Sun May 28, 2017 6:45 pm
by gaza the instructor
I think temp could be the key to how long.
Bread yeast is used at higher temps than
brewers, so up temp to 30c.