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Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:48 am
by Cheeeko
Hey guys,

Firstly id like to say G'day from Perth Australia! everyone on here seems really friendly and the advice/tips you guys give is invaluable for a first time stiller(?) like myself

I've just acquired myself a air still and I'm a total newb. I've been doing some reading, I finished every post in the lentil wash recipe section and I'm really excited to give it a try!

Currently I have the basic kit (10L fermenter) but looking to upgrade once I've had a few trial runs. I currently have a turbo kit bubbling away (hopefully finished by the time I get home)

my question is, you guys talk about 'sugar' Do you guys just use everyday cheap table sugar? what's the advantages/disadvantages with using other forms? dextrose? is it purely a cost saving thing?

What is the best kind of sugar to use in the air still?

Ok.. so maybe that was more than one question, but I hope someone can reply and give me some advice :)

Looking forward to being a active member of this forum!

Thanks in advance

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:52 am
by Icefever
Cheeeko hi & welcome to the best forum around.

Ok down to your Q's...

Table sugar is all it takes..you asked "dextrose? is it purely a cost saving thing?"...A..yes.

The lentil wash is a very good wash to start off with and will get you away from the turbo's....there's a lot of mixed feelings about turbo wash....not everyone like them...me included. :D

Have you download the PDF file for running a double distill with the Airstill???

Hang in there matey you'll be making fine drink very soon.

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:07 am
by Cheeeko
Cheers for the reply Ice! :)

Yep, ive studied it hard! cheers to @Almanac for making that, having the visuals to refer to is really going to help.

Yeah.. I swapped my mate a carton (24 pack in Australia) of Corona for his air still! turns out he'd been making turbo washs' and drinking his stripping run "pfft this is shit" he reckons :D ::)

So just normal el'cheapo sugar? copy that.

Also while im here, sorry if its a bit off topic, but - I see all you lads are using 20+L fermenters, what would be a good base lentil wash recipe for my little baby 10L fermenter.. I see that they get pretty busy in the first day or so and with my limited room.. and my wife's temper, I really don't want to make a mess or waste any of the precious

Cheers

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:17 am
by Icefever
Hi matey.

Stick with what you feel is right for you...(think wife) :D we do go with 20/25 liter wash as it fits into 1 x 25 ltr boiler like the T500 or 5 x 4 ltr AS runs.

Stick with the 10 ltr for now that'll give you 2 runs...don't forget to only do half of the recipe...I cocked a recipe up years back with a beer...stuff came out like you don't want to know..

You got the deal of the week with the swap with your mate.... ;) give it a few weeks then call him over and show him what he's missing out on.. :D

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:22 am
by Cheeeko
Yeah I'm gonna have a go at getting the lentil wash right first in my baby, then upgrade to a bigger girl.

as far as yeast goes... is something like this suitable?

http://shop.coles.com.au/online/nationa ... ed-instant

Cheers

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:26 am
by Icefever
Spot on mate...

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:32 am
by Cheeeko
awesome cheers!

I get home from work on Tuesday, so ill give a little run down of how it all goes.

thanks for your reply mate

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:37 am
by Icefever
Looking forward to it.... that's what this forum is all about, there's no "Divas"
on here...unlike some of the bigger stilling forums. ;)

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:18 am
by Cheeeko
Yeah everyone seems so helpful and leaves their ego at the door :)

so I just did a quick on line test shop, and it seems that my 10L wash is going to cost me $3.43!!! ( so maybe like 2 quid?) and that's just buying the bits and bobs in regular amounts! wow! I cant wait to give it a shot

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:33 am
by Icefever
One thing to take into account with the size of your bucket is you will need head room...most wash's will take off with a bang. Go for lager one than you think you need.

Most of the buckets/drums we use are about 30 ltr for a 23/25 ltr wash...and I've had the odd one try to clime out ... :D try a sugar & kale wash...then when your ready move on up to a molasses/ golden syrup wash.

The last time I worked my costs out for running a wash was like £3 a ltr...don't know what it is now.. :D it's a win win for everyone...maybe not the Gov tho.. ;D ;D

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:38 am
by Icefever
Icefever wrote:One thing to take into account with the size of your bucket is you will need head room...most wash's will take off with a bang. Go for lager one than you think you need.

Most of the buckets/drums we use are about 30 ltr for a 23/25 ltr wash...and I've had the odd one try to clime out ... :D try a sugar & kale wash...then when your ready move on up to a molasses/ golden syrup wash.

The last time I worked my costs out for running a wash was like £3 a ltr...don't know what it is now.. :D it's a win win for everyone...maybe not the Gov tho.. ;D ;D


You may have read this...download the PDF file it'll make a whole lot of sense..

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1216

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:12 am
by Cheeeko
Yeah, after reading that whole thread its something I'm very mindful of.. how much free board would you allow in a 10L vessel?


or should I even bother? and just go grab myself a larger 25/30L fermenter?

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:09 am
by Icefever
To be honest you've hit the nail on the head....I'd go for a 25/30 ltr then it'll be easy for you to do a larger wash.. as and when you want to trade up.

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:05 pm
by Easydrinker
Just backing up Ice's comments here.
He is speaking words of wisdom.
I can't fault a word.

Robert.

Re: Newb - what kind of sugar?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:09 pm
by Cheeeko
Ok so I just got home.. It's nearly at 990... And sitting around the 9% mark

Jesus.. I've started to de-gas... Do the bubbles ever stop?!?

Any tips?