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Newbie question

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 3:19 pm
by ninja_geezer
Hi all ive got an air still used it a few times but not happy with the off flavours ,so im ditching the turbo yeast and trying out the Birdwatchers (TPW - Tomato Paste Wash)
Sugar Wash Recipe
how long for the fermentation process and what sg should i be aiming for start and finish ?
also how long should it take for the wash to clear ?
should i draw it off from the sediment as soon as it stops fermenting ?
also is it worth using bottled spring water ?
#sorry for what might seem obvious to some but like i say ive only used the turbo packs with carbon ect. :)

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:08 pm
by packapoo
Why not really get daring and dump the TPW for kale. It's superior.... 8)

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:24 pm
by ninja_geezer
sorry dont know that one yet must read more lol :)

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:37 pm
by Easydrinker
Hi mate and welcome.
Not all Turbos are a bad thing.
Have you been stripping, then spirit running with judicious cuts?
This can usually produce a decent spirit, esp. if no carbon in the wash is called for, as with a Turbo such as Vodka star.
There is a greater wealth of information to be read on this site than I have time to try to advise you upon here.
If you have spare Turbo yeast sachets, use them, carefully.
If you don't, consider something different.
This site's members seem to prefer Kale and Lentil, as nutrients, others favour Tomato paste
But basically sugar+yeast+water+nutrient = alcohol.

HTH

Robert

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:04 pm
by ninja_geezer
Easydrinker wrote:Hi mate and welcome.
Not all Turbos are a bad thing.
Have you been stripping, then spirit running with judicious cuts?
This can usually produce a decent spirit, esp. if no carbon in the wash is called for, as with a Turbo such as Vodka star.
There is a greater wealth of information to be read on this site than I have time to try to advise you upon here.
If you have spare Turbo yeast sachets, use them, carefully.
If you don't, consider something different.
This site's members seem to prefer Kale and Lentil, as nutrients, others favour Tomato paste
But basically sugar+yeast+water+nutrient = alcohol.

HTH

Robert

Many thanks for the info.not been taking off any of the first spirit at all just have been collecting 700ml as per the instructions ,should i only use half a sachet of the turbo yeast and no carbon ?and then when distiling draw the fist 50 ml off ? i only have 1 lot of turbo yeast left then its onto a new start with the recipes on here.

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 6:13 am
by Mash
There is a lot of info about taking cuts on here. Everything that comes out is not 'best' alcohol.

There's a v good guide on here that shows you how to identify & make the cuts.

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 8:35 am
by ninja_geezer
Mash wrote:There is a lot of info about taking cuts on here. Everything that comes out is not 'best' alcohol.

There's a v good guide on here that shows you how to identify & make the cuts.


Thanks mash ;)

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:10 pm
by Easydrinker
Ninj, hi!

Firstly your Turbo question.
Can I suggest running whichever one it is with only 5Kg sugar and 25 litres of water?
And if they include carbon, throw that away!
Your wash will finish faster and cleaner.

ALWAYS strip run and spirit run = double distill.

Secondly try these two for basic Airstill advice;

download/file.php?id=60
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=765

And this one for advice on cuts

download/file.php?id=326

All three offer very good advice.
When you have enough experience to argue with them, you no longer need them :)

HTH

Robert.

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 7:37 am
by ninja_geezer
Easydrinker wrote:Ninj, hi!

Firstly your Turbo question.
Can I suggest running whichever one it is with only 5Kg sugar and 25 litres of water?
And if they include carbon, throw that away!
Your wash will finish faster and cleaner.

ALWAYS strip run and spirit run = double distill.

Secondly try these two for basic Airstill advice;

download/file.php?id=60
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=765

And this one for advice on cuts

download/file.php?id=326

All three offer very good advice.
When you have enough experience to argue with them, you no longer need them :)

HTH

Robert.
is using the turbo pure yeast should i only use 6kg of sugar and 25 l of water ?
Many thanks Robert will have good read.. ;D

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:26 pm
by gaza the instructor
Hi Ninja
Packapoo mentioned kale wash, its brilland easy.
Also very cheap and will produce the best neutral
(vodka base) of all. 25ltrs water 5kg sugar, 100g
Kale and half tin Allinsons bread yeast, thats it.
Cost approx £3.75. Put two washes on and you can
play for hours and have enough good booze to bath in.

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 3:09 pm
by ninja_geezer
gaza the instructor wrote:Hi Ninja
Packapoo mentioned kale wash, its brilland easy.
Also very cheap and will produce the best neutral
(vodka base) of all. 25ltrs water 5kg sugar, 100g
Kale and half tin Allinsons bread yeast, thats it.
Cost approx £3.75. Put two washes on and you can
play for hours and have enough good booze to bath in.

Thanks gaza ,now to find the kale !! :D

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 3:33 pm
by gaza the instructor
You can down load the recipe
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3874

Re: Newbie question

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 7:29 am
by Mash
ninja_geezer wrote:Thanks gaza ,now to find the kale !! :D


Garden centres have it as small plants at the moment.
Grow some. Dead easy. Just one plant, maybe two, will keep you in business.
Will grow in a pot.

This plant ought to be renamed "stillers friend"