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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby ant » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:25 pm

You might find this link worth reading as well.


http://www.stillsmart.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1021
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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Myles » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:49 am

I have built a few 54 mm shotguns with 7 x 12 mm tubes. I typically go for a length of 500 mm.

I just do a simple comparison using the basic liebig calculator on the HD homesite with everything set to default.

For example 4 kW with 12 mm tube equates to a length of 2.6 m. You could probably get away with 2.5 by increasing the coolant flow rate, so this means a 500 mm long shotgun with 5 x 12 mm cores.

not too difficult to do. My 6 kW 100 litre keg boiler uses full power on warm up and about 1/2 power on a spirit run. Remember to factor in strip runs though. Your condenser needs to be able to cope with your FULL boiler power for this use.
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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Benoit » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:20 pm

Is there any benefit from having any kind of angle on them when theyr set up? Every one Iv ever seen has been mounted vertically, but in essence this is a multiple leibig which are usually at 45°ish angles?

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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Myles » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:26 pm

Benoit wrote:Is there any benefit from having any kind of angle on them when theyr set up? Every one Iv ever seen has been mounted vertically, but in essence this is a multiple leibig which are usually at 45°ish angles?

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Just from a practicality point of view. Shotgun usually has a reducer on the product end, at some angles you could get pooling in the reducer. Also there is often an air vent - surge preventer built into the product end.

Condensers on an angle are usually to lift the product end to a convenient height.
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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Benoit » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:18 pm

It all seems so obvious when someone explains it! Thank you!

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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Benoit » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:28 pm

It's taken a fair old while to get this far but after some toil & some swearing it's nearly done!
Just the collection cup to go on the end then some 15mm to go into the sides for water attachments & we are away!

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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Benoit » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:30 pm

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After losing patience with wet dry paper & a polishing wheel I resorted to a little light cheating, dried off in clean cotton & then rubbed down with some IPA....she sure is shiney

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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Mash » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:50 pm

Yee Gads that looks to be 3 foot long. 9 Elements. I make that 27 foot of condensing.

Whatever size is the boiler? Have you considered if the neighbourhood will go dark when you switch it on?
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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Benoit » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:07 pm

its massive overkill I know, I just couldn't help myself I had to build one! I made a much more reasonable Liebig a while ago because this took way too long & had a few hiccups.
Total length is just a shade over 2 foot but because of the collar, reducer, ferrule the length of condensing tubes is about 1'9" so closer to 16 feet of cool copper goodness.
Currently on a 2.5kw boiler but when my big fusti gets here I'll upgrade everything to maybe 4-5kw? Open to suggestions on that I'll be doing the electrics for that from scratch so any links to elements / controller combos greatly appreciated, hate electricity!

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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Mash » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:17 pm

I agree it is oozing copper goodness. And a fine job too.
I considered making a four core [9mm] at 12 inches long for my BM. But they do look a lot of work, I admire your tenacity.


Have you thought of using a mini-skip as a boiler. :)
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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Benoit » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:32 pm

Might need one of these mash?!

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And a new house to go with it! ;)

On a serious note, as long as the water goes in at the right end & doesn't get too cold the only difference I should get is a ready chilled final product rather than slightly warm?

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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Mash » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:35 pm

Benoit wrote:
On a serious note, as long as the water goes in at the right end & doesn't get too cold the only difference I should get is a ready chilled final product rather than slightly warm?

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joking aside, that would be my guess
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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Easydrinker » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:20 am

Benoit wrote:Image

After losing patience with wet dry paper & a polishing wheel I resorted to a little light cheating, dried off in clean cotton & then rubbed down with some IPA....she sure is shiney

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The pic seems to show you cleaned it up with Cillit Bang!

Seriously, well done on getting to the end of it.

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Re: Shotgun Condenser plans

Postby Benoit » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:44 am

Yes I did! God knows what's in that stuff but copper returns to its beautiful rosy hue right before your eyes, I thought the advert with the penny was all hogwash! There's still a few spots to clean up but I'll dig the dremel out of the loft to make life easier.
Really enjoyed making it, very challenging but fun all the same

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