Upgrade time ?
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Re: Upgrade time ?
Yep still the original Kale recipe. You really do
need a mains water supply to keep the temp steady.
If not you would be adjusting the flow rate all
the time.
Only other way is a bath or waterbutt maybe with
ice in the water, water is hot from the outlet
and a pump.
I use cold mains water supply with a SS flow reg,
that means no flow change if the loo is flushed etc,
and a power controller I bought of Ebay.
need a mains water supply to keep the temp steady.
If not you would be adjusting the flow rate all
the time.
Only other way is a bath or waterbutt maybe with
ice in the water, water is hot from the outlet
and a pump.
I use cold mains water supply with a SS flow reg,
that means no flow change if the loo is flushed etc,
and a power controller I bought of Ebay.
Rather have a full bottle in front of me
than a full frontal lobotomy
than a full frontal lobotomy
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gaza the instructor - Master Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
Robbo12 wrote:It reduces the power output i think the slower let's say the t500 is 2kw if I'm right in saying you run the power controller at say 1400 watts it produces better alcohol I've not got one but I'm looking at getting one
Cheers
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ninja_geezer - Experienced Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
What about this Ninja.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRO-BASE-KIT ... 0005.m1851
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRO-BASE-KIT ... 0005.m1851
Rather have a full bottle in front of me
than a full frontal lobotomy
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gaza the instructor - Master Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
Unless that was posted as a price guide?
It is in OZ.
Over £250, add £80+ postage.
Add import duty and VAT. Something over £400 in total.
Add some questions from HMRC.
If I currently wanted one of these, I would sit and manually enter a dozen bids one after the other, starting at £250 and ending at £370.
Such a bid history would totally freak any competing bidder.
The extras that you do not want?
You will either use or can put back for auction and reduce your costs.
There is some extra value in the package you found.
HTH.
Robert.
It is in OZ.
Over £250, add £80+ postage.
Add import duty and VAT. Something over £400 in total.
Add some questions from HMRC.
If I currently wanted one of these, I would sit and manually enter a dozen bids one after the other, starting at £250 and ending at £370.
Such a bid history would totally freak any competing bidder.
The extras that you do not want?
You will either use or can put back for auction and reduce your costs.
There is some extra value in the package you found.
HTH.
Robert.
There is no ONE way.
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Easydrinker - Donated to StillSmart

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Re: Upgrade time ?
I'd sit tight and watch it what i do with eBay is not to bid on it till the last minute then go in with a bid in the last 30 seconds but have a maximum you wanna pay if you win you can always sell the bits you don't want i see the seller from Liverpool area is that far from you as it's about 45 minutes from me.
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Robbo12 - Experienced Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
I upgraded to an Alan Manning gin still. All in, about half the price of a T500.
The product at 94% straight off the wash is good enough for me so I don't strip.
With my 17L boiler that's two runs taking 8 hrs in total, I don't collect tails.
Regards Marc.
The product at 94% straight off the wash is good enough for me so I don't strip.
With my 17L boiler that's two runs taking 8 hrs in total, I don't collect tails.
Regards Marc.
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Duffer26 - Experienced Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
Thanks for all the suggestions Ive put a deposit on a new one locally (not a bad price as well ) the ebay one has a couple of bidders on it now .i dont think i would get one from overseas as pointed out re HMRC ,import duty ect ....
anyway chaps what is the overall height of the T500 when setup please .i think ive found a little home for it ..

anyway chaps what is the overall height of the T500 when setup please .i think ive found a little home for it ..

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ninja_geezer - Experienced Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
Just over 130cm mate
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than a full frontal lobotomy
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gaza the instructor - Master Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
gaza the instructor wrote:Just over 130cm mate
Many thanks

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ninja_geezer - Experienced Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
I am always reluctant to question when it comes to Reflux Distilling, knowing so little about the process but the comment,
*The product at 94% straight off the wash is good enough for me so I don't strip*
had me puzzled as a Pot Distiller.
Isn't a run without separation of Fores, Heads and Tails a Strip Run? Or, is there some way with Reflux Distilling whereby these elements of the distillate are automatically separated.
Excuse my questioning but, as a Pot Distiller, if I was to drink the distillate straight from the wash, as described, I would be drinking the Strip.
I must have it wrong somewhere.
*The product at 94% straight off the wash is good enough for me so I don't strip*
had me puzzled as a Pot Distiller.
Isn't a run without separation of Fores, Heads and Tails a Strip Run? Or, is there some way with Reflux Distilling whereby these elements of the distillate are automatically separated.
Excuse my questioning but, as a Pot Distiller, if I was to drink the distillate straight from the wash, as described, I would be drinking the Strip.
I must have it wrong somewhere.
T
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Re: Upgrade time ?
To answer your question Toper.
Yes you have to do cuts, Fores are obvious as they are on a pot.
Early Heads the same, but by refluxing you can condense them.
Tails really do come in right at the end.
Example:- A spirit run 25 ltrs @30%
So we caculate approx 8 ltrs from run.
Fores 350ml
Heads 1800ml
Hearts 4500ml
Tails 1200ml
All figures approx on Kale wash 3x25ltrs stripped .
Yes you have to do cuts, Fores are obvious as they are on a pot.
Early Heads the same, but by refluxing you can condense them.
Tails really do come in right at the end.
Example:- A spirit run 25 ltrs @30%
So we caculate approx 8 ltrs from run.
Fores 350ml
Heads 1800ml
Hearts 4500ml
Tails 1200ml
All figures approx on Kale wash 3x25ltrs stripped .
Rather have a full bottle in front of me
than a full frontal lobotomy
than a full frontal lobotomy
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gaza the instructor - Master Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
+1 I wasn't sure I had read it right.
IMO yes it still needs cuts.
IMO yes it still needs cuts.
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Mash - Master Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
Yes, I make the cuts.
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Duffer26 - Experienced Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
gaza the instructor wrote:To answer your question Toper.
Yes you have to do cuts, Fores are obvious as they are on a pot.
Early Heads the same, but by refluxing you can condense them.
Tails really do come in right at the end.
Example:- A spirit run 25 ltrs @30%
So we caculate approx 8 ltrs from run.
Fores 350ml
Heads 1800ml
Hearts 4500ml
Tails 1200ml
All figures approx on Kale wash 3x25ltrs stripped .
Gazza sorry for maybe a daft question but you said from 3x25 litres of kale wash stripped ,did you strip using the T500 or a pot head ?
and what was your total volume in the boiler from the 3 stripped washes that gave you your fores heads hearts and tails results.
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ninja_geezer - Experienced Distiller

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Re: Upgrade time ?
I see the T500 on the bay went for £370 .i only paid £10 more for a spanking new one glad i did not bid now ,i know it had other stuff but ive got shit loads of other stuff loll..
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