Double Snake Turbo Yeast?

[makum101]

Just got myself a bag of Double Snake C48 Turbo yeast - up to 21% strength according to packet. (does 14% in 48 hours with 6 bags of sugar) Anyone else tried this range yet?

[billmcc]

C-48 Turbo Yeast,up to 21% Alcohol!

Double Snake C48 contains a special high alcohol yeast and nutrient for extreme alcohol content up to 21%.

Net Weight 130g, Add 6kg sugar to make 14% alcohol in 2 days, 7kg to make 17% alcohol in 3 days, 8kg to make 19% in 5 days or 9kg to make 21% in 7-10 days.

makum101 no offence mate but this sounds like off flavour city but please let us know how you go on
Cheers

[chill]

Might be OK if you had a reflux still producing azeotrope. I am interested to hear how it works out, but not my cup of tea.

[makum101]

Will do chaps. Ive done the 6Kg sugar / 2 day 14% method. Should be fermented out tomorrow evening. I didnt use any Activated Carbon as the packet didnt ask for it and the Biffa in the brew shop said it didnt need it! We shall see.

Ive tried it all over the years - Still Spirits, Alcotec 24 / 48 and finally settled on using Vodka Star on Aidanmac's method of double stilling to get the best results.

Mind you Im surprised at the lack of smell during this fermentation. Unlike the Alcotec 24 /48 there is no smell at all. Its not too aggressive either. I dare say you could get away with fitting an airlock!

One thing to point out though - On the packet it gives a table showing the amount of sugar / time / liquid temperature required to achieve the desired alcohol strength. Anyone wanting to make the 9 bag / 21% version be warned that it states you must keep the liquid temp between 18 & 24 degs. It then states... "This is impossible without cooling equipment". My 14% 6 bag is currently sitting in an unheated room and its liquid temp is 32 degs. (6 bag version is okay up to 35 degs according to the table on the packet).

[Easydrinker]

Once the yeasties get going,they can produce a lot of heat in a wash.
If these yeasties can really eat a 9Kg wash,I can believe they may produce enough heat to kill themselves,hence the chilling warning.
Maybe OK through a reflux still,someone let us know.

As an aside,I once tried what was purported to be a prison "brew",which involved soaking old bread in water (for the yeast),and orange or pineapple juice,left to ferment in a plastic bottle.
I have been desperate for alcohol at some times in my life,never that desperate,for a product that tasted like that.

Maybe if the rozzers come and take me away,I will change my mind on that...
Robert.

[makum101]

Well the 6Kg Double Snake C48 came out fine. No carbon used and no more off smells after fist still than with Vodka star, plus it fermented out in just 2 days. It was too low in Alcohol to follow aidanmac's method so I cut it with a little less water after first run to leave it at the desired 30% ready for its Second run, which came out just as good as if it were made with Vodka Star. Id say its way better than Still Spirits, as good if not better than Alcotec 24 or 48, plus the one bag (C48) gives the flexibility to use it with 6, 7, 8 or 9 kg of sugar. (9 needs chilling).

Ive just put a second DS C48 wash on, this time with 7kg of sugar. It says 3 days and the liquid must be kept between 20 & 30 degrees. Ill report my findings back soon

[cat5cable]

hi makum101 when you say no carbon do you mean the liquid stuff, also how do you clear it using the double snake.

thanks
ginger

[makum101]

Yes I meant the little bag of carbon liquid. I didnt use that or any other carbon other than when filtering after the second run in the still.

Im now using 8 bags of sugar and running it through twice as per aidanmac's method.

Comes out really clean and nice

[Dynamic]

Hi guys,

I bought a bag of C48 today, it says it's 130 grams for the 25 liters.
Will it still work if I separate it in 2 or more? like 65 grams for 12,5 liters?

hopefully someone will see my message because it is an old topic.

Greetings

[chill]

Yes, you can separate it.

[Dynamic]

Hi everyone,

So I tried the Double snake C24 that is ready in 24 hours. (my first try).
It's been 40 hours till it started and it looks like it's still fermenting, also, the density is heavier than water.
My temperature is 25 degrees.

Is this normal? :/

ps: what's the big difference between C*/C3/C24 and C48?

[makum101]

I only ever use the C48 as its most of the others wrapped into one. On the back is a chart telling you the different ways you can use it and how long each way takes.

It says if you use 6 bags of sugar it will take 2 days and produce 14%. Keep temp between 20 & 35 degrees
7 bags takes 3 days to produce 17% Keep temp between 20 & 30 degrees
8 Bags takes 5 days and produces 19% Keep temp between 20 & 27 degrees
9 bags warns that its impossible to keep the correct temperature without cooling equipment... 7 - 10 days. Produces 21% and must be kept between 18 & 24 degrees.

My findings are that with 6 bags its takes 3 days. With 7 bags it takes 4 days. 8 Bags takes what it states - 5 days. Ive not yet worked out how to get around the cooling aspect of the 9 bag version.

On the whole i use 8 bags and then follow the double stilling method found on these forums. If Im in a hurry I do the 6 bags and top it up after fermentation with some single stilled from a previous batch to lift the percentage.

[Dynamic]

Thanks! So I just need to wait a bit longer,

But..

How can you see that it's done? I guess if the foam is gone.
And is the result always a translucent mixture or stays yeast viseble?

@Makum101: You can buy a reactor with double jacket cooling, but that's expensive.

[makum101]

Hi Dynamic

Yes it goes a bit translucent but still retains the beige (if your not using carbon) colour of the yeast. No more foam on the surface but will still bubble through an air lock as the CO2 will be present. I use a beer/wine hydrometer to make sure. I think all the Double Snake's take a bit longer than stated. I found this to be the case when I used to use Alcotec 24 or 48 too.

Yeah Ive seen the coolers. expensive and faffy. I might invest in a cheap 2nd hand fridge and experiment with that over the summer (if we get one!)

[Dynamic]

Thanks for the information.
The foam layer is really thin and it seems my waterlock is 'calming down', I hope a few more hours.

So the yeast stays in my wash (forever) and keeps producing CO2?

A reactor is expensive but you have the best of the best, built-in thermometer that enable a cool engine, automatic stirrer, ...
But still, 5000$/€, way too much