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gaza the instructor wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:40 am .... with the mother of all underhangs. :lol: :lol:
Don't believe those adverts on the internet gaza, it won't make it any bigger :D :D :D
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Sadly you are wrong my friend am a size bigger this year already. Stopping smoking
has been an up hiller. Now the weight and this lock down is not helping.
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An suffering from a long wet winter... In extra pounds. A bit more sunshine should help, get outside and get on.
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gaza the instructor wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:26 pm Sadly you are wrong my friend am a size bigger this year already. Stopping smoking
has been an up hiller. Now the weight and this lock down is not helping.
I fear you missed the intended smut in my post gaza ;)

Edit to add - Congrats on quitting smoking!!!
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Cheers mate needed to for my health.
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When I came across this, I thought it may be an interesting add on to a hive for remote monitoring.

https://www.hackster.io/l-abeille-vie/ ... vie-ed1e73
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Just finished stitching up the insulation for the beehive.

Still trying to understand all the terminology of this new hobby. Tending to think of myself as a hivekeeper though no a beekeeper. They are the ones doing the work not me.

And discovered two new secret beekeepers, hidden in my circle of friends.
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I am now on my second reading of the recommended book.
What an excellent read
And found this site,
https://warre.biobees.com/index.html
And read an awful lot of it's links.
Decided that I am now just a little too late for this year.
I will get some bee friendly flowers established ( we are pretty barren hereabouts), and spend the winter building and modifying a hive. or two :)
I'll buy a nuc next year, stick it on the top, and see how it goes.
This has gobbled a lot of my current free time, but came just a little late for this year, in these climes.
Fascinating distraction that it was.

Thanks for the pointer Mash.
Did you get up and running yet?

TBH, I don't even like honey that much, but the possibility of harvesting 40lbs for mead, and helping nature a bit, really does appeal to me.

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Well, my above post turns out to be bolleuax.

A couple of nights ago, after a few shandies, I bought a Warre hive, a bee suit , a smoker, and a few more bits and pieces.
Tonight I paid a deposit on a nucleus of bees
A little late, but WTF?
A little love and maybe feeding, should get them through the coming winter, and then, their booty is mine!
I see Idle bee keeping as a long game.

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If you are buying your bee's in, you are not tooooo late.

I have split a Warre so have two swarm hives open for business. Both showing a lot of interest.

Got to remake my insulation. Shearing and roof membrane work well, but I should have made them the right length. Hey ho

Tbh I do think Bill over engineers his, a simple fold and red string. Bingo.
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As the supplier of my nucleus said, when I asked him to hold them until I am ready, the colony is growing everyday.
And they are Scottish bees, so accustomed to a short summer, even allowing for slightly longer days.
I'll get some fleececs cleaned up in the morning and get to work on the insulation. Fleeces a-go-go here, we usually use them as mulch or for burying under rhubarb.
I do think that Bill Anderson's year round insulation point is bang on.
I will be starting the nuc above just two boxes, so will be setting the other two as a bait hive.

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Windoe wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:18 am When I came across this, I thought it may be an interesting add on to a hive for remote monitoring.

https://www.hackster.io/l-abeille-vie/ ... vie-ed1e73
I really do not have the time for building this.
And it goes against the ethic of 'Idle Beekeeping'. :)

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Know what you mean, I am struggling with time & weather windows this year. Either wet or easy too hot. Running continental summertime at the moment. Long lunch and start again.
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Re-thought hive insulation today.
My hive has viewing windows, which will only be used occasionaly, to inform me if a new box needs nadiring
I am going for fleece in a sleeve, stapled near the top of three sides, a separate slightly over length sleeve covering the removable panel/4th side, tucked under the longer length, at each side.
And viewing panels will be at the back, opposite the hive entrance.
Covered by a four sides and a bit more length of roofing membrane stapled over it, lapping the box below.
With a length of string or bailer twine wrpped over the top of it all, on each box.
Fairly simple and should be workable.
Use the string to help lift and secure all out the way when working on a hive box below.

Of course, it will not look very pretty.
I suspect it is vanity that prevents many hive keepers from insulating.
They wish to show off their hives maybe?

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I have used roofing membrane, folding over a third, stuffed and stitched, with 2 red string cords. Time will tell
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Tonight, Friday, I installed my nuc of bees into the converter box, above my Warre hive.
Not as easy as expected.
The supplier was inside the nuc last Saturday, marking the queen and told me there was lots of space.
Tonight those 5 frames in a six frame box, (to allow easy movement of frames), were all connected and glued down, with extra pockets of comb all over the box!
That nuc box had 30mm more space than the converter they went into.
I had made the converter 5mm oversize for 5 frames
It was messy and slow.
The bees were pissed.
My suit kept me safe, I have just counted 20+ stings attached to my gloves, I only felt one, briefly.
I had not asked for the queen to be marked, happy that he did it,-
About to place the lid on, I noticed a small, (30'ish) group of bees outside the hive, and then noticed the blue spot of the queen.
I scooped her and entourage into the hive.
Things then quickly quietened.
I was then able to gently shake the several hundred bees clinging to me into the hive entrance.
A baptism of fire, I'll see how they treat me in the morning.
The friend who watched me do this remarked how gentle the bees were, despite their world being severely disturbed.

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Well done that man. Sounds like a baptism of fire indeed.

They will be fine when you next see them. Did you bung up entrance with grass?
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Well done Robert, much kudos to you for your efforts.

I know there's a hell of a lot more to the bee keeping lark than meets the eye (my dad kept bees, and a mate in the same line of work as me also keeps bees - the friend is driven to it by his mead making).

And good post highlighting some of the difficulty of this 👍

Gonna have to elevate my copy of the linked book up the pile that I have listed for "must read", to get a better understanding of how apiaries actually work.........
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Mash wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:51 am Well done that man. Sounds like a baptism of fire indeed.

They will be fine when you next see them. Did you bung up entrance with grass?
They were indeed fine, busy collecting pollen and the usual suspects.
I didn't block the entrance with grass, because I decided at 11th hour to add two chunks of 3" x 6" timber, to jack up the entrance level to EXACTLY what they were used to, and coloured the 'Goal posts' red to mimic the red plastic hole that they were used to.
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Less than two weeks after the bees descending into proper box one of my hive, tonight I had to give them box two.
They are making larvae while the sun shines, and running out of space again. :)
This should be my last intervention for 6 months.
Just sit and watch them come in and out, :D
I have bees in the game, quite a feeling.

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Thats a nice little Bee house, is that roof rain proof? :lol:
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The 'bee house' is now a 1/3rd taller, having had an extra box added.
It is Scottish winter proof; the roof has had two coats of gloss paint and covers a quilt box containing 6 inches of sheep fleece.
Under the roofing membrane is around 4" of sheep fleece.
in the next few days I will fit a ratchet strap around it all and the paving slab that it sits on.
For sure, my tying it down and insulating it year round is heretical to most conventional Bee keepers,( even using this type of hive is).
And even most keepers of this type of hive would not strap them down and/or insulate, even in winter.
This one was strapped together.
This one was strapped together.
this one wasn't
this one wasn't
I am not always willing to learn from reccomendations, but always ready to learn from mistakes. :lol:


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TBH,this is not proving to be very 'idle'
Wandering past the hive usually calls for 20 minutes watching the bees.
It is like an addiction.
Chilling with the bees.

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So, I would like to thank and curse Mash in equal measure. :)
Most of the last 3 months has been spent reading about and watching bees.
I am now a bee-bore.
Ask me a question, and I will bend your ears until you fall from exhuastion/boredom.
Making a decent spirit at home is SO much easier than hands off beekeeping!

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Win win then 😁
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