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Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:11 am
by Easydrinker
Yes mate, my life, and whole postcode area,(and beyond), has been enriched by your recommendation of a book.
Buy yourself a drink and send me the bill. :)

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:29 am
by Mash
Just spreading the love. You did the heavy lifting.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:05 am
by Easydrinker
If you keep bees, or just want to know an awful lot,-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-pAQt6pFhM
It is an hour of you tube, probably the best thing that I have ever seen there.
Certainly the best in the forty or so episodes of this series that I have watched, streamed over the last few years.
The presentation is outstanding.
It is not light entertainment!
Your head will hurt, or you will switch it off.
I watched it earlier, and intend to try again in a few minutes.
Probably fall asleep watching it. :)

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:55 am
by Mash
Excellent find. I do like stuff like this. If this is basic, advanced is probably going to be though going.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 8:29 pm
by Mash
I read .. "Warre hives" and "The idle beekeeper" by Bill Anderson quite some months ago now.

.. And finally I have bee's arriving. Quite excited.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 8:55 pm
by Jennysgin
We wish you and your bees luck! :+1:

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 10:49 pm
by Easydrinker
I wish them pollen and nectar. :lol:

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:34 am
by Mash
Thanks both. I am sure I will find something to waffle about.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 2:10 am
by Easydrinker
Believe me, once you give any bee a home; Bumble, Honey or Solitary, you are in danger of becoming a bee bore.
Just tell the peeps that don't care about pollinators to feck right off.
We will save the planet without their help :lol:

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:52 am
by Mash
Isn't it strange, I got two peeps interested in keeping before my bee's arrived.
Both chose to purchase and get ahead, whereas all of my swarm traps failed.

I am now rehomimg 2 colonies.
Hoping they will arrive in the next week or so.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:48 pm
by Easydrinker
My bees scouted my bait hives for a couple of weeks, were finally off put by a thunderstorm.
Finally swarmed last Thursday.
Landed 30 metres from the bait hive, and may have come back to it.
I knocked them into a bucket and poured them into the bait hive.
They are doing very well.
And then on Sunday, sitting in front of the hives, feeling smug, another 10,000 bees swarmed!
Same bucket, poured into a new hive.
Doubly smug.

Robert.
Bee Wrangler. :lol:

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:23 am
by Mash
Well done. The first swarm makes you twitch a bit doesn't it?

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:57 pm
by Easydrinker
The only sting I have had this year did cause my whole hand to swell for a week.
My fault, stood in front of the hive and talking expressively with my hands.
I think Bill Anderson says it right; you are very unlikely to be stung by a swarm of bees,- their only concern is the queen, and she is right in the middle.
But the excitement/energy a swarm produces is palpable.
Our ducks and chucks felt it, though not bothered by the bees.

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:52 am
by Easydrinker
Last week my beehive swarmed, twice.
I contained them both
I have spent most of the last five days making hive roofs, insulated floor stands and box insulation.
All installed tonight, And I believe the hard work is over for this year, for me, not the bees.
I also realised that an awful lot of recent knowledge learned about bees was wrong.
Just a for instance, the concept that a newly emerged virgin queen in a hive that has swarmed seeks out ALL the other virgin queens and kills them.
Bollocks.
In a well populated hive, the first virgin queen to emerge "Toots" to tell the workers that she is mobile and to keep unemerged queens captive, literally by keeping them waxed inside their comb cells.
The unemerged queens "Quack" in response.
https://nottinghamtrentuniversity.wisti ... dta9ltloh1

When the "tooting" stops, because that queen has also swarmed, the workers release another queen, who starts "tooting"
Somehow, the hive reaches consensus upon how many workers can be spared to follow virgin queens.
All down to the strength/size of the colony.
At that point, the latest mobile queen may eliminate any remaining queens, or it ends when all "quacking" stops, as there are no unemerged queens left.

All of this is much removed from conventional beekeeping where swarming is prevented by clipping the queens wings, and preventing her access to the whole of the hive by the use of "queen excluders". And constantly shuggling frames around, with the top of the hive removed.

I am trying to offer bees as natural a home as I can, with minimal interference, opening the hive only twice a year, adding a box underneath in the spring,removing one from the top in the autumn.
Neither action should cause too much loss of heat or "nest scent".


I know, I have become a proper bee bore.
But I am learning shit daily.
And some from scientific papers, and experience, not social media.
And have gone from keeping one hive this time last year, to three this year.
And expect a good crop of honey from the first hive in the autumn.
Which in itself is staggering, as I have not fed those bees any sugar, and will not.
Pure raw honey, not the 89p a pastuerised jar of sugar syrup from Lidl.
Enough.

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:15 am
by Mash
Always a good read. I to am still learning.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:32 am
by Easydrinker
I would love to find a definitive book on bee-keeping, in any type of hive.
The more that I read, the more I realise that the writing has a personal slant or bias.
There are certain members of the BBKA that I could walk past, if they were on fire, without stopping to piss on them.
While I am of the "leave them alone" school of hive keepers, there are parts of hive life that I do not understand, and wish to know more of.
I suspect this knowledge will be learned in the future, not from the past.
And certainly not from the keepers of Langstroff style hives.

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:18 am
by Mash
I don't profess to have read as much, but I wholeheartedly agree. You know it was this discovery that got me involved

I do wonder if farming is getting the blame for the decline in numbers, when beekeeping techniques are actually to blame.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:04 pm
by Easydrinker
I believe whole heartedly that "modern" bee-keeping is fuc*ing the bees.
They survived millions of years before we came along, and we had the "great idea" of trying to keep them in a toppled chest of drawers.

A suckler veal calf gets more repect than most hives of bees.

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:02 am
by gaza the instructor
I don't keep bees or know much about them, but I have
hundreds in my garden at a time. Its down to the shrubs
and hardy annuals that missus Pirate has planted.
One is called Buddleia of which we have six plants.
Just doing my bit to help and as long as you don't go
flapping your arms about like a demented chimpanzee,
the bees will leave you alone and go collecting nectar.
The added bonus is they pollenate everything for us and
atm my garden looks a picture, till I pitch my deck chair
and put my pythonesque knotted hanky on the cannister. :lol:

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:29 pm
by Easydrinker
Mate, if you are providing for butterflies and bees, they won't care what you look like. :lol:

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:32 pm
by gaza the instructor
No I am sure, but the wife says that I will frighten the neighbours kids.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:24 am
by Easydrinker
I frighten any casual visitors to my humble abode.
How many flying Figs do I care about that?

Robert.

Re: Beekeeping

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:18 am
by Easydrinker
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You are looking at 25 'ish lbs of honey.
Being gravity filtered from the crushed comb to the lower bucket.
It may take a couple of days.
The comb will then be rinsed to make mead.
The wax made into candles.
By the time I had crushed all the comb I was covered in honey.
Licking my fingers never tasted better. :)

Robert.