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Yes mate, my life, and whole postcode area,(and beyond), has been enriched by your recommendation of a book.
Buy yourself a drink and send me the bill. :)

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Just spreading the love. You did the heavy lifting.
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If you keep bees, or just want to know an awful lot,-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-pAQt6pFhM
It is an hour of you tube, probably the best thing that I have ever seen there.
Certainly the best in the forty or so episodes of this series that I have watched, streamed over the last few years.
The presentation is outstanding.
It is not light entertainment!
Your head will hurt, or you will switch it off.
I watched it earlier, and intend to try again in a few minutes.
Probably fall asleep watching it. :)

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Excellent find. I do like stuff like this. If this is basic, advanced is probably going to be though going.
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I read .. "Warre hives" and "The idle beekeeper" by Bill Anderson quite some months ago now.

.. And finally I have bee's arriving. Quite excited.
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We wish you and your bees luck! :+1:
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I wish them pollen and nectar. :lol:

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Thanks both. I am sure I will find something to waffle about.
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Believe me, once you give any bee a home; Bumble, Honey or Solitary, you are in danger of becoming a bee bore.
Just tell the peeps that don't care about pollinators to feck right off.
We will save the planet without their help :lol:

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Isn't it strange, I got two peeps interested in keeping before my bee's arrived.
Both chose to purchase and get ahead, whereas all of my swarm traps failed.

I am now rehomimg 2 colonies.
Hoping they will arrive in the next week or so.
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My bees scouted my bait hives for a couple of weeks, were finally off put by a thunderstorm.
Finally swarmed last Thursday.
Landed 30 metres from the bait hive, and may have come back to it.
I knocked them into a bucket and poured them into the bait hive.
They are doing very well.
And then on Sunday, sitting in front of the hives, feeling smug, another 10,000 bees swarmed!
Same bucket, poured into a new hive.
Doubly smug.

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Well done. The first swarm makes you twitch a bit doesn't it?
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The only sting I have had this year did cause my whole hand to swell for a week.
My fault, stood in front of the hive and talking expressively with my hands.
I think Bill Anderson says it right; you are very unlikely to be stung by a swarm of bees,- their only concern is the queen, and she is right in the middle.
But the excitement/energy a swarm produces is palpable.
Our ducks and chucks felt it, though not bothered by the bees.

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Last week my beehive swarmed, twice.
I contained them both
I have spent most of the last five days making hive roofs, insulated floor stands and box insulation.
All installed tonight, And I believe the hard work is over for this year, for me, not the bees.
I also realised that an awful lot of recent knowledge learned about bees was wrong.
Just a for instance, the concept that a newly emerged virgin queen in a hive that has swarmed seeks out ALL the other virgin queens and kills them.
Bollocks.
In a well populated hive, the first virgin queen to emerge "Toots" to tell the workers that she is mobile and to keep unemerged queens captive, literally by keeping them waxed inside their comb cells.
The unemerged queens "Quack" in response.
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When the "tooting" stops, because that queen has also swarmed, the workers release another queen, who starts "tooting"
Somehow, the hive reaches consensus upon how many workers can be spared to follow virgin queens.
All down to the strength/size of the colony.
At that point, the latest mobile queen may eliminate any remaining queens, or it ends when all "quacking" stops, as there are no unemerged queens left.

All of this is much removed from conventional beekeeping where swarming is prevented by clipping the queens wings, and preventing her access to the whole of the hive by the use of "queen excluders". And constantly shuggling frames around, with the top of the hive removed.

I am trying to offer bees as natural a home as I can, with minimal interference, opening the hive only twice a year, adding a box underneath in the spring,removing one from the top in the autumn.
Neither action should cause too much loss of heat or "nest scent".


I know, I have become a proper bee bore.
But I am learning shit daily.
And some from scientific papers, and experience, not social media.
And have gone from keeping one hive this time last year, to three this year.
And expect a good crop of honey from the first hive in the autumn.
Which in itself is staggering, as I have not fed those bees any sugar, and will not.
Pure raw honey, not the 89p a pastuerised jar of sugar syrup from Lidl.
Enough.

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Always a good read. I to am still learning.
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I would love to find a definitive book on bee-keeping, in any type of hive.
The more that I read, the more I realise that the writing has a personal slant or bias.
There are certain members of the BBKA that I could walk past, if they were on fire, without stopping to piss on them.
While I am of the "leave them alone" school of hive keepers, there are parts of hive life that I do not understand, and wish to know more of.
I suspect this knowledge will be learned in the future, not from the past.
And certainly not from the keepers of Langstroff style hives.

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I don't profess to have read as much, but I wholeheartedly agree. You know it was this discovery that got me involved

I do wonder if farming is getting the blame for the decline in numbers, when beekeeping techniques are actually to blame.
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I believe whole heartedly that "modern" bee-keeping is fuc*ing the bees.
They survived millions of years before we came along, and we had the "great idea" of trying to keep them in a toppled chest of drawers.

A suckler veal calf gets more repect than most hives of bees.

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I don't keep bees or know much about them, but I have
hundreds in my garden at a time. Its down to the shrubs
and hardy annuals that missus Pirate has planted.
One is called Buddleia of which we have six plants.
Just doing my bit to help and as long as you don't go
flapping your arms about like a demented chimpanzee,
the bees will leave you alone and go collecting nectar.
The added bonus is they pollenate everything for us and
atm my garden looks a picture, till I pitch my deck chair
and put my pythonesque knotted hanky on the cannister. :lol:
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Mate, if you are providing for butterflies and bees, they won't care what you look like. :lol:

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No I am sure, but the wife says that I will frighten the neighbours kids.
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I frighten any casual visitors to my humble abode.
How many flying Figs do I care about that?

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You are looking at 25 'ish lbs of honey.
Being gravity filtered from the crushed comb to the lower bucket.
It may take a couple of days.
The comb will then be rinsed to make mead.
The wax made into candles.
By the time I had crushed all the comb I was covered in honey.
Licking my fingers never tasted better. :)

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Yaaa bee's 👍
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Does that mean they finally arrived?
Mine do not venture out much now, and probably not at all by the end of the month.
Winter mouseguards are fitted and the weather conspired to protect them from robbing by wasps at the end of the wasp nest cycle.
Looking forward to the end of February, to check that they survived the winter.

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