T500, Alembic & Sputnik

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They need to get their micro nutrients somewhere! :lol:

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Mash wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:38 am
Eaten alive.

Read an interesting article yesterday on how many bugs die producing a field of organic vegan wheat. Appears to be 10 per sandwich.
Micro-scopic bugs or big spider type bugs?
Size makes a diff. to the protein count. :lol:

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:shock: In a vegan mind surely that's the meat count?
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Easydrinker wrote:
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You have prompted me to attempt a ginger wine infusion based upon my rhubarb wine.
Thanks phantom! :D

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Sorry chap, only just seen your post........

Anyway, last time I did ginger wine, I hadn't been making stuff long.

I had a recipe in mind, but when I spotted the ginger on sale cheap, I just filled a carrier bag - couldn't for the life of me remember how much I needed.

Anyway, jus scrubbed it all clean, shredded with food processor and away I went. There was so much fibre left after the ferment, that I ended up having to strain it all through a clean tea towel, soaked in sanitiser.

I couldn't think what I'd done wrong, because the wine was ginger flavoured but flat and bland. Drinkable but nothing special.

When I was on the last bottle, I just thought WTF! and stirred a teaspoon of sugar into it.

Sippy sippy, tastey taste and bugger me sideways with the rough end of a pineapple!

With the sugar, it was like a Stones/Tatties/Crabbies clone (which was what I was aiming for in the first place).

Big lesson (re)learned. For subtle ginger, dry is the way ahead. For sweet, firey mega-ginger sweet works brilliantly........

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Mash wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:38 am
Eaten alive.

Read an interesting article yesterday on how many bugs die producing a field of organic vegan wheat. Appears to be 10 per sandwich.
does that mean that it's not really vegan or just not cruelty free, cruelty to the beasties i mean, not the vegans eating buggy bread which seems more ironic than cruel :D
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Hi peeps, I just finished doing the first neutral runs with new t500, (without drama or incident) however a lot of my washes are flavoured, so in order not to strip all the flavour from the am guessing I need a condenser rather than column so:-

1. Do I need both the dome and condenser or can I just use the condenser thingy with the ordinary lid and will having the dome as well make a significant difference?

2. If I wanted to infuse whatever am making eg. gin would it be ok to put a piece of muslin over the top of boiler with all the botanicals and trap it in place with the lid or is this gonna mess with the seals

3. Alternately is there a way to run the column (ie sans packing) to bypass the need for a dome/condenser, I know this has been asked before but I can't find a definative answer some say yay, some no way. Finally if this method is possible how much of the packing do you remove?

4. Finally, if 3 is possible would it therefore also be possible the pack the column with botanicals to infuse stuff?

Thank you - Cheers

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Ok, my take on this, DO NOT shove botanicals up your column, but please, go and prove me wrong!
But do take a look at crazy George. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_6czXx2r14

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Gaza is your man for this Jack.

I do like your idea for stretching a piece of muslin across the top, quite baggy with you botanicals in. Like a big sputnik. I for one wouldn't worry about the seals, but do wonder about it flapping around.

Perhaps a big seive and make a big sputnik. Or do that particular task, 2 bottles at a time on the AS so that you can try it and improve it each time.

The copper dome and condenser will be better for the flavours rather than the column. You could say you don't need to be removing the packing from the column if you have the dome - that is just a way of getting a similar affect.
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Easydrinker wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:38 am
Ok, my take on this, DO NOT shove botanicals up your column, but please, go and prove me wrong!
But do take a look at crazy George. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_6czXx2r14

Robert.
Yeah that was the vid I saw about packing column with bots, thought it sounded a bit... 'um.. not sure about that' just from a cleaning after pov if nothing else - - will give this a miss. This guys vids have left me with more questions than answers, i like the crazy george monika - :D - cheers jack
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Cheers mash, guess I'm gonna get a condenser, this started as an idea to make cheap booze, it has become addictive and is costing me a fortune :D - jack
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The only Gin I have made in the T500 boiler was for a do.
I soaked bots in 3 DEmi Johns full of 40% finished neutral
for 3 days poured in added 1 of water and used my
Alembic settup. Results were good.
I worry about damage to the internals of the Reflux column
running it at higher than design temps, its not what it was
made for.
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jacquie wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:55 am
Cheers mash, guess I'm gonna get a condenser, this started as an idea to make cheap booze, it has become addictive and is costing me a fortune :D - jack
Not trying to put you off, but a few of us have settled for making a good neutral and then adding flavour later. Whether that is fresh ingredients or still spririts. Getting flavours through from the wash is difficult [unless you are trying to get rid of them :lol:] expensive and frustrating IMO & you never seem to get enough flavour.

..and the broken record bit - a sputnik is very good at that.
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And as you say 2.5 ltrs of Gin at a time!!!
Therefore 5ltrs in a day with a Sputnik is
easy. Stick with your AS mate. Use Gaza's
favour principal, "If it ain't broke don't fix
it !!".
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gaza the instructor wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:20 am
And as you say 2.5 ltrs of Gin at a time!!!
Therefore 5ltrs in a day with a Sputnik is
easy. Stick with your AS mate. Use Gaza's
favour principal, "If it ain't broke don't fix
it !!".
Thanks GTI, have 2 AS so happy to do my gin that way and gives me more scope in terms of flavours. But if I want to use t500 to strip rum or cfw or fruit washes am i right in thinking thats where i'll need the condenser rather than column? - cheers - jack
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Yes, Jacks, you are correct.
A column is not the friend of a flavoured wash.

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jacquie wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:29 pm
... But if I want to use t500 to strip rum or cfw or fruit washes am i right in thinking thats where i'll need the condenser rather than column? - cheers - jack
Yeah copper dome and condenser. Or a Vino Tinto pot head? And if you don't fancy the copper work, members have made them for others.
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I bought the Copper ware and use more often than the
column which I use only for neutral .
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gaza the instructor wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:55 pm
I bought the Copper ware and use more often than the
column which I use only for neutral .
That's exactly what I was thinking would be the case, amazing as it is for neutral the column seems limited in its applications, so dome and condenser on order - cheers guys - jack
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It is easy to save money in a pandemic lockdown, you don't travel, and you don't waste food.
It is easy to spend money in a pandemic lockdown, online shopping, you think you are worth it, and you may not come out the other side.

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Enjoy Jacquie you will love the results for your
Rum and Cornflake Whisky etc..
Sorry but one other purchase needed https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264592048684
I am sure you can get a better deal than me. There
are thousands on there. But you really for spirit runs
need one of these. I run at about half power when its
up to speed. Stip runs 2.5 hrs for 25ltrs at full speed.
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Tbh that's a good price Gaz - these have recently gone through the roof.
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Does the copper dome make a noticeable difference? I have the condenser without the dome as that's all I could afford at the time. Is it worth the purchase?
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Just my opinion, but I reckon copper pieces in the boiler would be as good as a copper dome, if you are not using a column.

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I'll go with that ED
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DorsetScott if you stood 100meters away and I shouted at you, you
might hear. If i cup my hands and shout it would be louder. That is
what the Copper dome does I think makes a clearer, brighter flavour.
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