Water Flow Regulator

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Doing a reflux column distillation today using the Still Spirits Water Flow Regulator for the first time. Far superior control with this. It was very easy to bring the column into balance. Holding right at 58C +/- 1 for 4 hours now, and I haven't had to make any adjustments to it.

So very glad I got it.

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Well done, advice. Be very careful and try to avoid it running without water. Happened a few times for me.

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Its the second best buy for my T500 after the voltage
regulator. The two combined give you so much more
control, therefore ending up with much better,nicer
product. ;)
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How do you use the voltage regulator with the T500, is it for temperature control? Not sure if I need one as I have a Grainfather that I use as the boiler which has it's own temperature control system. But last time I used it with the T500 I just left it on full boil and monitored the temperature on the temperature controller.

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Biggles wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:38 pm
How do you use the voltage regulator with the T500, is it for temperature control? Not sure if I need one as I have a Grainfather that I use as the boiler which has it's own temperature control system. But last time I used it with the T500 I just left it on full boil and monitored the temperature on the temperature controller.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=185

Yeah, pretty much slow down the process to better separate heads from hearts etc.
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Just turned mine on. I'm suprised as how loud it is!
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Curmudgeon wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:51 pm
Biggles wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:38 pm
How do you use the voltage regulator with the T500, is it for temperature control? Not sure if I need one as I have a Grainfather that I use as the boiler which has it's own temperature control system. But last time I used it with the T500 I just left it on full boil and monitored the temperature on the temperature controller.
https://stillsmarter.co.uk/forum/viewto ... ?f=7&t=185

Yeah, pretty much slow down the process to better separate heads from hearts etc.
I'm interested in this. Being new I wanted to be able to hold my head temp steady at 168F wait for the flow to stop and then know that I'm into the hearts as per the gospel according to George! Is there any way of measuring the head vapour temperature without drilling holes?
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A power controller does not directly adjust temp.
It adjusts power. It's gives you a another tool to balance the still.

What still do you have?
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If you wish to measure head vapour temps. then you need a thermowell or a sensor in the vapour path.
I use one of these, not essential, but it helps me 'see' the bigger picture.
If you are regulating the cooling, AND the power, then you are on a slippery slope from which you need to find your own way down.
My own air cooled still relies on Constant Cooling, and Power Control IS used to adjust the temps., in the boiler, the column and condenser.
It is querky, and uncommon, but I have learned to live wih it.
Really, it is little more than a phat airstill. :lol:

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Easydrinker wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:00 am
If you are regulating the cooling, AND the power, then you are on a slippery slope from which you need to find your own way down.
Robert.
Sounds too difficult!!! I just thought that to bring in a little science to determining what is a head and whats a heart could be a good thing particularly as I wouldnt know one from the other yet. I guess like most I'll just have to smell and taste my way through that. Thanks.
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Muddy wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:22 am
Easydrinker wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:00 am
If you are regulating the cooling, AND the power, then you are on a slippery slope from which you need to find your own way down.
Robert.
Sounds too difficult!!! I just thought that to bring in a little science to determining what is a head and whats a heart could be a good thing particularly as I wouldnt know one from the other yet. I guess like most I'll just have to smell and taste my way through that. Thanks.
It is possible to do both with the T500, I'll see if I can dig up the thread which was discussing power regulator/water on the T500 to compress heads and get a steady run.

It's all new and exciting and scary at the moment waiting for the first run, but I think you'll find heads to hearts to be fairly straighforward to determine. The smell of heads is offensive compared to hearts
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DorsetScott wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:57 am
Muddy wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:22 am
Easydrinker wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:00 am
If you are regulating the cooling, AND the power, then you are on a slippery slope from which you need to find your own way down.
Robert.
Sounds too difficult!!! I just thought that to bring in a little science to determining what is a head and whats a heart could be a good thing particularly as I wouldnt know one from the other yet. I guess like most I'll just have to smell and taste my way through that. Thanks.
It is possible to do both with the T500, I'll see if I can dig up the thread which was discussing power regulator/water on the T500 to compress heads and get a steady run.

It's all new and exciting and scary at the moment waiting for the first run, but I think you'll find heads to hearts to be fairly straighforward to determine. The smell of heads is offensive compared to hearts
This was posted by gaza

Hi been running a T500 for 4 Years and what I make of it is.
You have two ways to adjust power or water flow.
I have one of those plastic flow controllers so I wind that fully open
and adjust the flow to 40c then wait for first few drips, then dial
the power back till no produce is coming out and wait for 30 mins.
then power up to a stead drip and take fores (250ml) and heads
first four jars (400ml each). then wind up the power and adjust water flow
to 53c and collect the goodies. It may not be the correct way, but
with a good wash fully fermented and cleared the neutral is lovely. ;)
By the way this is for the strip from three washes so a full boiler.
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It's all new and exciting and scary at the moment waiting for the first run, but I think you'll find heads to hearts to be fairly straighforward to determine. The smell of heads is offensive compared to hearts
I ran my sacrificial run as a production run and made cuts to test myself and was pleased to be able to note the differences from start to finish. I sorted out 625Ml of what i felt to be the hearts by smell then diluted to taste and took another 125ml out towards the tails. I only did a half charge at 10% ABV so collected a total of 1.1L I ramped up temperatures once I was confident I was into the tails to finish the run and this produced much lower ABV product but it was producing at 94% ABV throughout most of its run. I probably shouldn't do that in future as they can be used in a run themselves later.

I taste tested the lot and threw out another 125ml leaving me with 500 from 1.1L which I would have drank. Does this sound about right?
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and take fores (250ml) and heads
first four jars (400ml each). then wind up the power and adjust water flow
to 53c and collect the goodies. It may not be the correct way, but
with a good wash fully fermented and cleared the neutral is lovely. ;)
By the way this is for the strip from three washes so a full boiler.
That last sentence explained why I thought you were throwing out a half of your run :lol:
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I getting concerned about you and this throwing out malarkey.

Ps edited your quotes to make them function.
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I throw lots away in my old age Mash.
Lolly sticks, used condoms, banana skins,empty Beer cans.
Just naming a few.
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Mash wrote:
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I getting concerned about you and this throwing out malarkey.

Ps edited your quotes to make them function.
Cheers. Wasn't sure why that happened but did notice it and still could see no reason why. What with the post police and now the format police this forum is becoming more regulatory by the mi :lol: nute
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Don't worry about it. Just helping out.
It was the first "/" causing the problem.
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Someone has eyes on both of youse :)

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Easydrinker wrote:
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Someone has eyes on both of youse :)

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I see a bus in the distance, empty, I'll maybe get on it and ride away..

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Keep grinning. The bus is probably a mirage anyway.
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Mash wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:03 am
Ps that emoji is untidy just there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I ha :lol: d an ide :lol: a yo :lol: u couldn' :lol: t resist
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Muddy wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:16 am
Mash wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:03 am
Ps that emoji is untidy just there 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I ha :lol: d an ide :lol: a yo :lol: u couldn' :lol: t resist
Be careful, you will get us into trouble with Ed talking like that!
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