transfering from boiler to fermenter

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transfering from boiler to fermenter

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Hope this subject hasn't been jawed to death...

I've seen many a video and "how to's" that depict wort flowing out of the boiler directly splashing into a sanitized fermenter creating oxygenation like crazy!

I don't do this. I use a sanitized 3/8" transfer hose and hook it up to the spigot on a sanitized fermenter (Speidel 30L) filled with CO2 and sealed with a sanitized cap. I open the boiler valve, fermenter valve, and slowly un-seal the cap to let the chilled wort flow. Is this sanitary method too anal?

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I have just reread this post FOUR times to be sure that I and the OP are on the same wavelength.
If I have this wrong Cal T, shout up!

A boiled wort is as depleted of Oxygen as it can be.
Your pitched yeast need some oxygen to get going.
I personally 'splash' my racked wash into the boiler.
I then often will oxygenate more with a whisk or airstone.
If making wine or beer, you do not want to oxygenate the racked product, because at that point oxygenation might feck your product.

From what you have written, you have to be an American cousin.?
Can I politely ask you to relax/chill a little?
There are booze sites that tell you what to do.

And then there is us.
We encourage a little free thinking..

Some of us make a little good product. :)

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Cal,

You have confused your apples 'n pears a bit.

The co2 fill is to keep air OUT ( and it has bee proven to be quite poor at that)
But the very next thing you need to do (like ED said) is to introduce air for you yeasties. I find splashy racking into the fermenter not enough. I beat the brew with an egg whisk - some use a air-stone.

Not 'anal' as much as 'inappropriate'

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I probably should have been a little more clear in my post. What you both say is true.

After I fill my fermenter from the bottom spigot, I prepare the fermenter for fermentation. I make pilsners and lagers, so after getting the wort as low as I can, around 20oC, I put it in the fermentation freezer (controlled temp) and set it to around 7-8oC, The next morning I rack it to a clean and sanitized fermenter, oxyginate with pure oxygen for about 2 minutes, and then pitch a 4 liter starter. I then let it rise to fermentation temp of 10oC. It finishes in about 10-11 days, then I rack to 2ndary at 4oC for 4-6 weeks. I get very little diacetyl and it tastes really good!

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I've always felt funny about transferring to an open fermenter. I've always felt transferring in a close system would be better. I was just wondering if my "closed" transfer was really necessary.

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OK - that makes sense.
You are settling the brew overnight chilled to remove any sediment from brewing - gotcha. The CO2 thing helps and is correct. However unless you deliver it as dry ice particles and not high pressure gas, chances are it is blow out quicker than you can get it it - proved this at college.

Ed and I make ale, hence the answers - no settling required.
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CalHiTower wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:39 am
I've always felt funny about transferring to an open fermenter. I've always felt transferring in a close system would be better. I was just wondering if my "closed" transfer was really necessary.
Just my opinion but, yes a closed transfer is not necessary. However, if it works for you then it is not a problem either.

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Thanks for the input to all.

Sure a lot easier to dump the cooled wort into the sanitized fermenter and go from there, that's for sure. Since the CO2 is heavier than ambient air, imho I feel better about filling the gas through the small opening in the top before filling with wort... I used to use Argon for this purpose during my wine making days...it is really heavier than the ambient air, but a bit more expensive.

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I admit to being redneck, and choosing low cost options. :D
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Mirror-signal-manoeuvre.

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You're right ... this Blichmann Engineering pump is excellent. I have one as well as a Chugger. Very handy!

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I think you are above the level of most of us already and we should be asking you.

Plenty of us have beer and wine experience and it's great that the forum is expanding.
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CalHiTower wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:54 pm
You're right ... this Blichmann Engineering pump is excellent. I have one as well as a Chugger. Very handy!

I have a chugger, but converted my BM not to need it after a couple of years. The BM pump now does everything by adding a 3 way valve.
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Curmudgeon wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:09 am
I think you are above the level of most of us already and we should be asking you.

Plenty of us have beer and wine experience and it's great that the forum is expanding.
Thank you for the kind words...but alas, it's just that I'm old...been there, done that, type of thing...

I still have most of the stuff I bought back in the day...I'm lucky I still know where most of it is... :lol:

I love to make my German beers, but I make mostly gin for my sweet swmbo, who has ailments that the hootch seems to alleviate... 8-)

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if you want any gin recipes just shout
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Thanks, Gaz,

My recipe is tried and true...I've tweaked it over the years and my wife just loves it. It's about all I can do to keep the cupboard full for her at my age.

Hope you're enjoying the holidays.

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CalHiTower wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:16 pm
Curmudgeon wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:09 am
I think you are above the level of most of us already and we should be asking you.

Plenty of us have beer and wine experience and it's great that the forum is expanding.
Thank you for the kind words...but alas, it's just that I'm old...been there, done that, type of thing...

I still have most of the stuff I bought back in the day...I'm lucky I still know where most of it is... :lol:

I love to make my German beers, but I make mostly gin for my sweet swmbo, who has ailments that the hootch seems to alleviate... 8-)

Cal
I can relate.

Sadly THC doesn't seem to survive the distillation process very well or we'd be healthy millionaires.
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Curmudgeon wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:47 am
Sadly THC doesn't seem to survive the distillation process very well or we'd be healthy millionaires.
:lol: Would help my arthritis for sure. ;)

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Warm infusion after flavoring of choice?
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