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Just a starter.

Can we have a place in here to discuss stuff that we grow to make or flavour our drinks?

At some point I want to plant a full scale botanical garden for useful plants (along the lines of Culpepers, as I have a copy of his 1826 version!!), but the conversations may get lost in the other sections.

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You can't plant the entire culpepers :D :D I have one too, sadly not 1826, but it's got the same huge ammount of stuff in it.
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Something like this myles?
I have been itching for something like this.
So many of us grow stuff.

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Wishful thinking. :lol:

However, I do have aspirations for a decent botanical garden. I have a signed copy of Amy Stewart's "The Drunken Botanist" for inspiration. :D

We have just started the next phase of garden development. 16 x raised beds and a 20 ft greenhouse. I am going to put in a secure section - we now have 3 grandchildren - because I want to include medicinal plants. Some of these are dangerous, like Wolfsbane, so precautions need to be taken.

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Very good idea to have a secure section for your 'special herbs..' :roll:

I imagine quite a few of us grow all sorts of things, not just for fermenting, would be nice to get some tips, I have one, don't what ever you do put 3 squash and 3 courgette in your green house..FFS...lesson learned there big time! It was like Indiana Jones searching for the lost tomatoes.
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myles wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:57 pm
Some of these are dangerous, like Wolfsbane, so precautions need to be taken.
Ooh, do you have a werewolf in your midst?! :wolf:

(I may have been enjoying Harry Potter with the kids recently :lol: )

Edit: sorry Myles! Totally irrelevant :oops:

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I can easily crowd my small, (14 metre) polytunnel with courgettes and pumpkins, when everything else is in there. :)

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I went to a continental market a few months back and bought an established grape in a big container. The main stem is about 6 inch in diameter, trained as a goblet with 6 arms, each of which is 2 inch diameter.

It is going in the greenhouse and it will be joined with Calamondin Oranges. Several years ago we made marmalde from these. Outstanding, sweet, perfumed, marmalade. A real winner.

Have started sourcing herb seeds!!

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Your vine sounds really good,
I had friends that had one planted outside, that grew through a fashioned hole in the wall and then up and under the roof of the conservatory, about 12' of very productive grape harvest each year.
My two, totally outdoors, struggled through a couple of years and died.

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We set 50 as a trial. All gone. Did a couple of harvests, but there is a winemakers saying that you are either a grower or a maker, but rarely both... And my merlot is very nice.
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myles wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:57 pm
Wishful thinking. :lol:

However, I do have aspirations for a decent botanical garden. I have a signed copy of Amy Stewart's "The Drunken Botanist" for inspiration. :D
Just finishing off reading this. Couldn't believe it when I found it in a hospice shop for 50p. Best value for money ever.
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The satisfaction of eating a totally home grown meal is one of my guilty pleasures.
Whether Pork, Lamb or chicken for me, with sometimes 6 or 7 home grown veg. and a few homegrown herbs.
Haven't bought tinned Tomatoes for years, we pick and freeze the excess, whole, and just pour them into the pan.

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Cannot agree more with that statement.

Own veg. Own meat. own bread washed down with your own booze. One of life's simple pleasures.
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We had 20 tons of best grade topsoil delivered this morning.
All 12 of the 12" x 5" raised beds are now full. :D We will top them off with some compost.

We are lucky in that we are close to the source for Dalefoot compost. https://www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk/prod ... ost.p.aspx
We use dumpy bags of Lakeland Gold - a peat free, bracken / manure based compost. We use it on the roses, and all the flower borders, and will use it in the veg garden also.

Our plot has possibly 18" of topsoil over a good 4 foot deep layer of clay :roll: !! Perhaps I should be taking pottery classes!!!

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Jennysgin wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:16 pm

Ooh, do you have a werewolf in your midst?! :wolf:

(I may have been enjoying Harry Potter with the kids recently :lol: )

Edit: sorry Myles! Totally irrelevant :oops:
Not irrelevant at all. I have always been a night owl. ;) Also a Hogwarts fan.

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I still think you are going to drown in veg :D Growing is fine but the prep and storage needs a thought too.

That said, I am driven by taste / balance. For instance I don't grow taters/carrots/brussels Imo not worth the effort.

Instead we grow the "harder to gets" aubergine, chilli, corn, gherkin*, celeriac, elephant garlic (foc seed if you want), bombproof lettuce.

* have a cracking pickle recipe for gherkin (&eggs)
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:lol:
I have married children and granchildren to supply also.

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In than case I will update my previous comment, get a transit van not a freezer :D :D

I do like the idea of self sufficiency, I think we are getting there, but we still haven't found any toothpaste seeds.
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Mash wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:37 am
* have a cracking pickle recipe for gherkin (&eggs)
What does a man have to do to get a recipe around here :D
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Even with a PT, aubergine, chilli, corn, struggle here.
Most brassicas suffer, but the dwarf Kale was/Is good this year.
Carrots are simple, and mine don't contain Permethrin to protect against fly. Raised beds help here as carrot fly don't like flying above 18".
Tom's grown for better flavour, a good red lettuce, beetroot,Kohl Rabi,spinach,Garlic,lots of leeks, the list could go on.
Some of the Veg. grown under plastic and some outdoors.
I guess we have to try it all, and see what works, and what we actually eat! :)

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Mash wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:55 pm
In than case I will update my previous comment, get a transit van not a freezer :D :D
HA!!!! This is my daily driver. :D Big Red Invincible X with a sliding load bed in the back. She is a real beast.
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It should be good for the Veg. rounds, come the summer! :lol:

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Is carrot fly that little white f***er that you also get on bassicas? I have a good kale crop but it does suffer fly.

Tried rubble netting tunnels... Great.

But a rubble net fruit cage breeds LWFF like crazy.

Marigolds seem to be the answer..
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DorsetScott wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:50 pm
Mash wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:37 am
* have a cracking pickle recipe for gherkin (&eggs)
What does a man have to do to get a recipe around here :D
They do take a minute :D I have popped it in the recipe section ..

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=594&p=9729&sid=ad1 ... bd8d#p9729
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Mash wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:45 am
DorsetScott wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:50 pm
Mash wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:37 am
* have a cracking pickle recipe for gherkin (&eggs)
What does a man have to do to get a recipe around here :D
They do take a minute :D I have popped it in the recipe section ..

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=594&p=9729&sid=ad1 ... bd8d#p9729
lol, cheers Mash
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