What do i do with this??

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What do i do with this??

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I had access to a couple of staves from ex-Glenfiddich whisky barrels so chopped some bits off and they've been immersed in neutral spirit in a couple of these jars for a year now. Was my first ever neutral spirit and just an idea!

Thing is - all the spirit tastes of is oak.

It's not a lot really - two jars of the stuff so probably only about 700ml. Any of you experienced jockeys have a clever idea what i should do with it?
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cut with new make whiskey until you like the flavour of it

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New oak always tastes like that - needs time.
Use it as a flavour essence or tip it in your next spirit run.

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"New make" whisky: Have only just managed my second decent neutral fermentation so don't feel confident enough to have a go at whisky yet, though it is in the long term plan.

"New oak" - Maybe i misunderstand, but it's not new oak - the staves are from a used cask so I thought i would get more whisky flavour off them. I suppose at worst tipping it into a spirit run at least means it doesn't get wasted.

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Try cutting a small amout with fresh neutral spirit.
That's a lot of wood you have there, in a small amount of spirit and quite a long time.
I would use 1/2 that amount of wood in 5 litres.

My first attempts at oaking were using simillar cut chunks of old barrel staves, in lesser amounts.
When one of my whisky's was tested by someone who makes my one of my favourite commercial malts, he didn't like it and said I had got the wood notes all wrong.
That was my bad, for including the outside of a very old barrel and all!
These days I plane the staves to clean wood, cut in pieces and hit with a blowtorch until black all over, just like the inside of a whisky barrel.
My booze tastes better.
You live and learn. :)

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Easydrinker wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:57 pm
These days I plane the staves to clean wood, cut in pieces and hit with a blowtorch until black all over, just like the inside of a whisky barrel.
My booze tastes better.
You live and learn. :)

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Now that sounds like a plan.

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Knock a batch of cornflake whiskey up, just as easy as neutral to make, get neuking and blending, bet there is a good drink in there waiting to be found!
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I've heard it said that whisky isn't made in the still, but in the warehouse! The choice of casks is paramount to the quality of the end product. A poor spirit can be enhanced by good casks and proper aging, and a good spirit can be ruined by poor quality cask, etc. Anyway, I've also been guilty of over oaking, ending up with something that has tasted like a sideboard, or a tree! It's a never ending learning curve......thank goodness, it's what makes this hobby so enjoyable!...
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Whisky is made by MAGIC and a few simple processes, which I will not go into here, all previously discussed.

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Nice one Robert. Magic indeed.
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StillDave wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm
I've heard it said that whisky isn't made in the still, but in the warehouse! The choice of casks is paramount to the quality of the end product. A poor spirit can be enhanced by good casks and proper aging, and a good spirit can be ruined by poor quality cask, etc. Anyway, I've also been guilty of over oaking, ending up with something that has tasted like a sideboard, or a tree! It's a never ending learning curve......thank goodness, it's what makes this hobby so enjoyable!...
As Robert haas often said...."Everyday is a schoolday"!.... :D :D
I somewhat agree with that barrels can clean up a crap spirit, but they can also overpower a lovely one.
I have had average booze turn out great with the aid of a barrel but I've also had great booze had the maltyness robbed by using new US oak.

Personally I find for malt I like a very used oak, and used very sparingly, as it enhances the flavour
For corn I like new oak (or apple wood) toasted and with a slight char as corn ( or the corn I get) have very little flavour on it's own

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Too much young flavour. Dilute with booze (if that's a thing) and age until as old and wrinkly as Robert.
Slowly slowly, catchy funky

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Good to see you grinning...
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My shoulders are still broad! :)

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