Golden Syrup & black treacle

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Golden Syrup & black treacle

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I've been running the golden syrup for what seems like years....after reading Gaza's posts I decided to take another step forward.....I've started a GS & Black treacle wash aiming for a darker rum??.....it's sat in the garage at the moment thinking about what it's going to do....will check it on the morrow and if there's no action I will add another type of yeast??? watch this space..

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It should have a taste of it's own.
Black treacle is truly a flavour to be reckoned with! :)

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Surely any colour won't make it through the still ?

That'd presumably come from oak and/or caramel addition ?

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You are obviously correct phantom.
I read it as a metaphor, meaning 'darker in taste'.
Ice has been playing this game long enough to know his arse from his elbow. :)

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Your spot on about the colour Phantom, I was thinking more along the lines of mouthfeel....sometimes I find GS rum a little light on flavour. I'm hoping the treacle will add a caramel tone.

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Should get going OK, with black treacle in it. Don't think you will need more yeast.... Just a chiller pack :D
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Black treacle is of course fancy molasses and Fingers Crossed should
give you a richer flavour ED.
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Icefever wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:59 pm
I've been running the golden syrup for what seems like years....after reading Gaza's posts I decided to take another step forward.....I've started a GS & Black treacle wash aiming for a darker rum??.....it's sat in the garage at the moment thinking about what it's going to do....will check it on the morrow and if there's no action I will add another type of yeast??? watch this space..

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Don't stand in front of it Ice.
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gaza the instructor wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:10 pm
Don't stand in front of it Ice.
Which model is it, Gaza??? I nearly bought a 2.4 many years ago, which I had now...

Back to the wash....It's slow but it's ticking over nice...some rum guys say a slow wash is good??? watch this space.

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Mash wrote:
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Should get going faster than Gaza's old Jag :D
For you, he may use a whole can of 'Easy Start'. :lol:

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Don't mention Nitro.
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A slower & cooler ferment typically has more flavour.
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Any suggestions on a good ratio for golden syrup and black treacle. My all black treacle washes are a bit too powerful in flavour for me!

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Windoe wrote:
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Any suggestions on a good ratio for golden syrup and black treacle. My all black treacle washes are a bit too powerful in flavour for me!
I didn't look to see the size of the tin....but I used a good 6 kg of GS....then I decided to throw in a 454g tin of treacle...won't know what it adds to the standard GS wash until it's run...
You do an all black treacle rum wash?? what does that turn out like.??

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I would expect an all black treacle to taste on the darker side of a Navy Rum?

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Windoe wrote:
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Any suggestions on a good ratio for golden syrup and black treacle. My all black treacle washes are a bit too powerful in flavour for me!
There is stuff about this is the archive. Try searching for molasses as well. From memory at least 50 / 50
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archive/viewtopice914.html?f=16&t=3433

Try that. Our old mate Anavrin!
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Yes speaking of which where is Anavrin??
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Last I heard from him he was finding it hard to find the time....can't remember what it was....at the time he hadn't done a wash for a while.
He may turn up one day?? who knows? a bit like me..

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Icefever wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:20 pm
gaza the instructor wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:10 pm
Don't stand in front of it Ice.
Which model is it, Gaza??? I nearly bought a 2.4 many years ago, which I had now...

Back to the wash....It's slow but it's ticking over nice...some rum guys say a slow wash is good??? watch this space.
Not wishing to boast, but have two Jags ATM, a bit like that Prescott Pratt.
one is an S type R gunmetal grey(trad Jag colour) 4.2 ltr V8 Supercharged running Modified
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am keeping the original owner lost £63,000 in 5 years, ouch.!!
S Type I plan to sell, but still in love so I have one for each foot.
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Mash wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:01 am
archive/viewtopice914.html?f=16&t=3433

Try that. Our old mate Anavrin!
Thanks

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I recall Anavrin had a very young family, that may have become more demanding.
He has not been active in the last year.
Maybe he is happy with knowledge acquirred and shared, and has no more time to spare.
Fair enough, my best wishes to him.

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And @Mash, that was cool.
Don't think that I often think of linking into the archive.

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