Lentil Wash

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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Cherry Yidaki » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:32 am

Got it. Got it. Thanks all.
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Corps012588 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:45 pm

Aidan.
Seeing as how there is hardly anything I'm this wash, does it clear well on its own?
Also I see your statement about the distillate from this not needing to be carbon filtered.
That sounds great if making up large batches, I have high hopes for this with the airstill after double distilling.
It's bubbling really well and really is such an incredibly easy wash to make up.
If this turns out well then I think this will be the wash I use from now on.
I'm planning on aging this for as long as possible on jd chips.
I've set myself the target of 12 of December so almost 12 months on chips.
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Almanac » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:02 am

A finished Lentil wash will clear on it's own if the conditions are right, i.e. if it's cold enough. ;) The colder the wash is the better it will clear. mine are usually clear in about a week after fermentation ends.

When I said distillate doesn't need carbon filtering I was referring to distillate from my still which is a 50lt potstill with a thumper, which, after a stripping run and a spirit run means my distillate has been triple distilled so it doesn't need carbon filtering. When I run my Airstill I carbon filter everything ;)

If you're going to age spirit on JD chips you should put the spirit in at 55% and you could try nuking it at the beginning and then once every two months....you'll be amazed at the result ;D

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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby googe » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:18 am

Nice one Adain, keen to try this. does anyone do single runs with this?, what are your results?. I do single runs so don't need to strip.
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Corps012588 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:05 am

My ferment is still bubbling away!
I set it off on the 9th and it's been at 22/24oc
Is this ok?
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Icefever » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:44 pm

Corps012588 wrote:My ferment is still bubbling away!
I set it off on the 9th and it's been at 22/24oc
Is this ok?


If it was me, I wouldn't worry about a thing...It'll just take a while longer to finish out.

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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Corps012588 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:48 pm

Fantastic. Thank you
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Corps012588 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:08 am

Ok. Just checked the wash as there was no action in the airlock.

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Just tipped the wash from the trial jar into the fermenter and the airlock is bubbling again!!!!!!
What on earth is going on and how should I proceed please?
I was thinking of giving the whole wash a quick stir
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Icefever » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:07 am

By what I can see from your hydro it's still over 1.020...for me that would stay in the bucket for another few days. I checked mine and it went down to 0.098...when your airlock started up again shows that it's not finished. ;)

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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby YHB » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:38 am

Corps012588 wrote:Just tipped the wash from the trial jar into the fermenter and the airlock is bubbling again!!!!!!
What on earth is going on and how should I proceed please?

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I think that your wash has been bubbling away quite merrily while you have been panicking.

I would like to bet that the lid on your fermenter was not sealed tightly and the CO2 has been taking the easy way out of the bucket instead of going through the airlock. All that has happened is that after checking the gravity and replacing the lid, you managed to seal it again so that the gas had to go through the airlock.
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Icefever » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:17 pm

YHB wrote:All that has happened is that after checking the gravity and replacing the lid, you managed to seal it again so that the gas had to go through the airlock.


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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby mikepiet » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:16 pm

Hi everyone,

OK - sure I am going to get flack for this question, but....

With Birdwatchers/TPW the tomato paste nutrient gets dissolved into the wash so that the yeast can happily do their thing. However, with the lentils, even after soaking in boiling water for half an hour, they will sink to the bottom of the fermenter.

How then does the yeast that gets sprinkled on top (or even stirred in) get to the nutrients in the lentils which are laying on the bottom of the fermenter. Obviously the wash works well - so I'm not questioning that - just the mechanics of how it works.

Thanks in advance for any info.

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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby YHB » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:10 pm

Don't know' but all I can think of is that enough nutrients dissolve out of the lentils and into the wash.

I am assuming that the same happens with UJJSM or Birdfeed washes where you end up with a load of corn or grains in the bottom of bucket after fermentation ends.

The only difference with the lentils is that there is no carry over of taste as there is with the other examples I quoted.
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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby Almanac » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:40 pm

Soaking the Lentils before pitching starts the release of their nutrients.

When dry yeast is pitched on top of a wash is quickly sinks as it rehydrates. Then, as the yeast becomes active and producing CO2, as well as ethanol, the yeast cells are floated up to the top of the wash, by gas bubbles. They quickly start the return journey to the bottom again where they land among the Lentils again picking up nutrients as they go and so the cycle goes ;D

This convection is visible in a glass fermenter and in this way the yeast draws strength from the Lentils until the yeast stops and comes to rest on the bottom have exhausted themselves making ethanol for us. However, the Lentils will still have a good store of nutrients left after the yeast cells have given up so you can re-use them ;)

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Re: Lentil Wash

Postby mikepiet » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:53 am

Thank you Aidanmac and YHB for that info. Very informative - gonna start a lentil wash today in the second fermenter. :-)

All the best,

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