Airstill, Best Practice and Results

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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby optic » Thu May 21, 2015 3:04 pm

As long as you are aware BB that any spirit you get from that turbo yeast will smell and taste pretty much foul and it will need carbon filtering before use .
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Spirits4BB » Thu May 21, 2015 3:37 pm

optic wrote:As long as you are aware BB that any spirit you get from that turbo yeast will smell and taste pretty much foul and it will need carbon filtering before use .

Will the carbon filter that came with the Airstil be ok for that job?

Next one will be a lentil wash with bakers yeast now I have something to use as a comparison having used a turdo..
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby chill » Thu May 21, 2015 4:13 pm

The little tea bag of carbon that goes in the outlet? Useless.
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Spirits4BB » Thu May 21, 2015 5:00 pm

chill wrote:The little tea bag of carbon that goes in the outlet? Useless.

It's a round charcoal jobby?
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby GrunthosTheFlatulent » Thu May 21, 2015 6:13 pm

The round charcoal jobbies are also useless.
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Almanac » Thu May 21, 2015 6:40 pm

I'm afraid with the Airstill there's just no way around it :( You have to get serious about filtering but it doesn't have to be expensive ;) There are plans hereabouts for making a decent filter from a bottle with the bottom cut off and a bag of carbon from the HBS. I don't have a link to hand but it shouldn't be hard to find.

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p.s. Based on filters you can buy I still say the Essencia Filter System is the Dogs Bollox ;)
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby optic » Thu May 21, 2015 8:20 pm

AidanMac wrote:p.s. Based on filters you can buy I still say the Essencia Filter System is the Dogs Bollox ;)



Yes totally agree I have the still spirits Z filter and the Essencia,everything about it is superior IMO .
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Easydrinker » Thu May 21, 2015 10:57 pm

The air still/Smart still is a cracking little gizmo.
It is a pot still however and so will carry flavour through from the strip to the final spirit run.
The only way to finish with a decent neutral,if that is indeed your goal,is to carbon filter.There are various ways to do that,I recommend the Essencia.
I do know,I have been there.
Equally,rum washes seem to come from the air still pretty good,I am far to time constrained to attempt AG washes with one,but cannot see why they would not work,indeed,others here say that they do.
Just do it,and make up your own rules as you go along.
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Mash » Fri May 22, 2015 6:54 am

AidanMac wrote:I'm afraid with the Airstill there's just no way around it


You can also consider making good clean washes to start with.
Don't use turbo's
don't overheat the yeast
Don't run till clear


It does make a difference. ..
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Spirits4BB » Fri May 22, 2015 8:13 am

Best way now to rescue this into a decent spirit?

Put through Airstil 2-3 times?

I'm at a loss with this charcoal malarky, can anyone find me a pic to look at please to get a good idea on what I need to build.
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby optic » Fri May 22, 2015 11:33 am

At a push a large funnel filled with carbon and a piece of coffee filter paper over the end would be far better than that crap disk thing that comes with the Airstil, be sure to give the carbon a good rinse first, if her indoors has a very fine sieve this is perfect for rinsing the carbon .
If you find the output from whatever filter you use appears painfully slow, its not that's a good sign as like most things in this hobby you get nowhere by rushing .
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Spirits4BB » Fri May 22, 2015 1:46 pm

optic wrote:At a push a large funnel filled with carbon and a piece of coffee filter paper over the end would be far better than that crap disk thing that comes with the Airstil, be sure to give the carbon a good rinse first, if her indoors has a very fine sieve this is perfect for rinsing the carbon .
If you find the output from whatever filter you use appears painfully slow, its not that's a good sign as like most things in this hobby you get nowhere by rushing .


Last question on this.... hopefully ;)

Best carbon to get from my LHBS for this task ?

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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby optic » Fri May 22, 2015 2:40 pm

This is what I used to use http://www.alcotec.co.uk/products/activated-carbon.html or this although it works out more expensive http://www.lovebrewing.co.uk/z-carbon-universal/.
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby Spirits4BB » Fri May 22, 2015 3:09 pm

optic wrote:This is what I used to use http://www.alcotec.co.uk/products/activated-carbon.html or this although it works out more expensive http://www.lovebrewing.co.uk/z-carbon-universal/.


Sorry, just one more..........

What's the use of that carbon I put in with the turbo yeast? Does it need it?
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Re: Airstill, Best Practice and Results

Postby optic » Fri May 22, 2015 3:14 pm

Apparently its supposed to remove some of the nasties produced during fermentation .
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