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tomato wash and happy with this one :-)

Postby marc83 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:58 pm

I done 3 x 25L washes over a few weeks,stripped them all,then diluted everything i had collected from them to 35%,filled my boiler with that and done the spirit run.

Im guessing i may have been able to get more out of it but with my still that was not to bad.

I may do a run of these every 6 months or so,in between if need be will just put on a SS triple.
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Postby foRUM warrior » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:41 am

arrr that explanes it i was trying to work out what the initial % of your was was lol i came up with some very very odd figures lol
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Postby Jimmy » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:57 pm

Good work guys! Incidentally, I\'ve used those wine finings from Wilkinsons and they worked exactly like Turbo Klar, I suspect they are identical.
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Postby foRUM warrior » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:31 pm

well mine is done fermenting it went from 1085 to 990 which is something like 12.9%.

Wilcos finings are in, looking good :)
Oooh the wilcos finings are only for 23l washes ..... I dont think 2 extra litres will matter lol
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Postby marc83 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:59 pm

Are you going to strip this wash foRUM?
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Postby foRUM warrior » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:28 am

i dont know mate, my big still isnt quite ready i dont think(i did citric acid clean the head but its still quite messy inside, and i also want to get a water recirculation system in place as i am on a water meter)
i may just run it through and see how it goes ..... or just smart still it
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Postby Ronbo » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:55 pm

Going to have a go at a tomato wash, have all the ingredients except epson salts. Would effervescent health salts -- which contain 17.4% epson salts -- be OK, or would that be a big NO-NO?

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Postby marc83 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:42 am

Im not sure Ronbo,i have only ever used epsom salts in mine.Can you not get ahold of any?

When i read effervescent i think fizzing,so not sure on it mate.Maybe someone else can enlighten you.
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Postby Ronbo » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:21 am

Was bit suprised myself, not even the nationwide \'Boots\' chemist sell it any more. Can get it on line by the Kilo, but you only need a teaspoon. Lots of places sell it as bath salts, but that is not B.P. grade for internal use, if you see what I mean.

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Postby marc83 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:24 am

shit mate i can even get it down at the local dairy,as a matter of fact i can pick up evrything i need for that recipe at the local dairy.What about a bin inn type,bulk foods place?Theres an indian shop in town here that sells all sorts of spices,sugars etc,they have epsom salts,you just fill your small sealed bags with how much you want,is there anything like that where you are?
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Postby foRUM warrior » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:14 am

Ronbo, if it helps i got a tub of it down at my local asda, from the pharmasist bit.
oooh and boots is pants now, they dont sell any home brew stuff any more! :(
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Postby Ronbo » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:09 pm

Hi Mark, tried all the local Supermarkets and chemists, problem is they don\'t have the pure product, only health salts.

BOR looks like he has the solution, thanks mate, I will have to make a special journey to the nearest Asda (there are none local). I presume they sell it as Epson Salt crystals.

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Postby Ronbo » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:06 pm

That last post should have acknowledged foRUM Not BOR, sorry mate.

Well, got the tomato wash going and since it is the first time I have tried, thought I would see how the yeast was getting on under the microscope. Took a tiny sample from the bucket and prepared a drop on a well-slide. Had a look at 400x and was suprised to see quite a few yeast cells moving around. This doesn\'t happen unless something is propelling them. Had a closer look and realised that there were more things in the sample chasing each other round than I have seen since the last \'Grand National\' horse race.

The only things different were the bread yeast and the tomato paste. I didn\'t think the yeast was the problem, so dug one of the empty cans of paste out and prepared a dilution of the dregs for the well-slide. Yep! sure enough, full of little critters.

Maybe I have been unlucky, but I\'m glad I used boiling water to mix the nutrients and paste before I pitched the yeast -- God knows what it would have been like if I hadn\'t.

I\'ll let it go on fermenting and see what happens! Mean-time I,m preparing a slide for a special test called the \'Gram Stain test\' which will be complete later tonight.

Will let you know how it goes.

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Postby marc83 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:33 am

it shouldnt be a problem ronbo.

When i mix this up i use 10L of boiling water from the jug to help dissolve the sugar,then the tomato paste etc is added.would be far from boiling once all that is added.and never had a prob.should ferment out nicely in 5 days.

cant wait to hear your results.
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Postby Ronbo » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:43 pm

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This is one of the critters I found in the Tomato Puree -- Gram Positive -- Plus lots of \'Cocci\' and \'Bacilli\' -- Negative and Positive.

Make sure the Tomato is put into Boiling water.

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