Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Mash » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:50 am

Anavrin, I reckon you are a good hand at darts myself 8)
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Anavrin » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:51 pm

Yeah that's an old picture, it's evolved a bit these days

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And I'm shit at darts and never been in the forces lol
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby inspector gadget » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:09 am

Anavrin wrote:Yeah that's an old picture, it's evolved a bit these days

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And I'm shit at darts and never been in the forces lol


I so want one of those...

hope you dont mind questions..?

where do you fill it from?

(just seen the drain) edit

is the nov 2015 video the latest you have done?

did you buy a bulk load of the ceramic rings? ;D

i guess you are happy with the way it has evolved? or are there more things you are thinking of changing?

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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Anavrin » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:41 pm

To fill it I take the column off, it's not like it's used all the time so it's no big deal to strip it down and I have plenty of time to clean the bits between spirit runs.

I'm not using ceramic raschig rings anymore, although I do have about 4kg of them collecting dust.

It's filled with SPP that I bought from Poland, it took about a month to arrive but it was worth the wait, it's good stuff.
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby inspector gadget » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:50 pm

Anavrin wrote:To fill it I take the column off, it's not like it's used all the time so it's no big deal to strip it down and I have plenty of time to clean the bits between spirit runs.

I'm not using ceramic raschig rings anymore, although I do have about 4kg of them collecting dust.

It's filled with SPP that I bought from Poland, it took about a month to arrive but it was worth the wait, it's good stuff.


Looking forward to your next video...
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Curmudgeon » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:39 am

Lovely looking kit and I've been drooling over the still dragon gear.

What are your thoughts on the value of copper in a still? Overrated?
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Mash » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:15 am

Depends on on the type of still.
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Curmudgeon » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:06 am

I'm reading that as pot still needs copper to reduce sulphur while leaving flavours compared to a more modern design will remove all undesirables including sulphur?
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Anavrin » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:08 am

I use a 1m 2" straight copper column in place of the bubble plates and packed section when stripping and the three bubble sections have copper plates and copper bubble caps, so hopefully there's enough in there.
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Mash » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:32 am

I was going to say....
Different stills are designed will use copper in different ways. The effect of the copper is always required. Air stills are limited to only a few options - Lob some in the boiler or thread some wire through the condenser coil.

Anavrin's answer was much better, though so I won't bother :)
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Mash » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:54 am

I was going to say....
Different stills are designed will use copper in different ways. The effect of the copper is always required. Air stills are limited to only a few options - Lob some in the boiler or thread some wire through the condenser coil.

Anavrin's answer was much better, though so I won't bother :)
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Seagull » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:15 pm

Just taken delivery on one of those Cellar 7 Spanish Rojo red wine kits after reading this thread. Looking forward to giving it a try.
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Mash » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:27 pm

Blimey a post ON TOPIC - not sure thats cricket ;D ;D
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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby Easydrinker » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:28 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I'm reading that as pot still needs copper to reduce sulphur while leaving flavours compared to a more modern design will remove all undesirables including sulphur?



Cheerily taking this thread back off topic...
Any still and condenser incorporating copper will reduce sulphites in the distillate.
A "more modern" design will not, and this is not even determined by where the cuts are made.
Depending upon the size of your Reflux still,and it's design, it will cheerfully allow you to collect Acetone, Turpentine (or at least a version of White Spirit) and many other liquids that you do not wish to drink, before and after the stuff that you are striving for.

A pot still will, (generally), leave a flavoured spirit, based upon the initial wash, and with judicious cuts after a second distillation, a pleasant spirit, after aging .

A reflux still will, (generally), allow you to produce a distillate at a much higher ABV, and once again with judicious cuts, a neutral product.

Copper and Sulphites are just, but importantly, mice nibbling at the cheese.

Any version of a reflux still will give you a distillate of a much higher ABV than a Pot still, that bit is simples ;) ;)

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Re: Anyone tried one of the very expensive red wine kits!!!

Postby guest5234 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:12 pm

I have a friend who goes to france and gets me some decent reds and whites, 10 litre boxes for £14, works out cheaper than kits :) tried them but never had much luck.
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